God can't be disproved?

Question

Doesn't something have to exist first of all to be disproved? There is no evidence of God, so FIRST we must find such evidence (if at all possible) and then try and challenge it and have the 'theory of God' be thrown out or confirmed to the level of fact.

To say God can't be disproved makes no sense.

tuyet n, there is no evidence of the soul either. So until there is I HAVE NO SOUL and neither does anyone else. You pre-assume it and God/Jesus Christ exist even though they have zero evidence as of yet.

"You cannot prove a negative"
Which is why I mentioned evidence to be disproved because that is positive, not negative.

Matt A, I feel pity - not anger that you have a belief in a god.

Answer 1

there is evidence of Jesus Christ in the scrolls. i believe in him. i think people on here believe in him but they are being wrong in saying they dont......why do people who believe in god get thumbs down?

Answer 2

Well no, unicorns can't be disproved nor can Santa. This is why logically we say "You can't prove a negative" and that it is the responsibility of the person making the claim to proof that their assertion is true. So yes you're right about the evidence and evaluating it to see if it reasonably supports the hypothesis of god, but no you don't disprove it.

Edit:
Sigh. Yes, many of us would be more that willing to look at proofs, evidence or even indications for the existence of god. Granted the shortened version "There is no evidence for god" should be more appropriately "There is no valid, compelling evidence that has yet been presented for the existence of god, there has been no valid, compelling evidence yet presented for the validity of any holy book. Given these two statements the existence of god is classed as other unproven entities such as Unicorns and Santa."

Answer 3

No, something does not need to exist to be disproved. Indeed something needs to not exist in order to be disproved, since logically it should be impossible to produce proof that something that exists does not exist.

God can be disproved by demonstrating that some element of the definition of God forms a logical contradiction. This is easily possible if you start with a reasonably specific definition of 'God'.


For example, let's define God as an omnipotent, omniscient, fair being who created everything (except himself) and punishes some people in the afterlife. I'd say that fits the common monotheistic traditions, right?
Using this description, and the principle of causal determinism, it becomes clear that an omniscient creator would be personally responsible for the state of every particle at every time, and would therefore be responsible for the thoughts, beliefs and actions of all humans. If he were to punish any of those humans for any of those thoughts, beliefs or actions then he would be punishing another for his own deeds, which we can all agree is unfair. To be both fair and unfair is a contradiction, so God as defined above cannot exist.

Answer 4

No. You can't prove that something doesn't exist. To do so, I would have to show, in the entire vast universe, in the physical world, the electromagnetic spectrum, and every other location and state, that no such thing exists. Sorry - can't be done.

But if you are going to believe in your god, AND you insist that I do also, the burden of proof that he exists is on you, not me.

If you want me to believe, then:

- show me that your god exists, using undeniable proof (and that also means no circular logic),

- show me that heaven, hell, and an afterlife all exist (same requirements apply)

- show me that praying and begging will influence your god's decision as to how I spend my afterlife.

If you can't do all of those, just leave me alone. I don't mind if you worship your god, as long as you don't bother me and my family, and you don't expect me to pay for your beliefs.

Answer 5

The point is that you can come up with any absurd idea that you like, and then say "Well, you can't conclusively prove that it doesn't exist!" Is there a teapot orbiting Pluto? Is there a Flying Spaghetti Monster? Is there a God? It's all really the same question.

Reading some of the semi-literate responses from people who fancy themselves to be "religious" is just pitiful. Even if I could actually convince these trogs of anything, I'd be suspicious of my own methods, because they only respond to half-baked emotionalism and sentimentality. I mean, it's nice that you think "the proof of God is all around us," and I'm happy for you; but all that really means is that you don't understand the nature of "proof."

Answer 6

Right , non-existance can't be proven. For instance , if I ask you to prove there is no tooth fairy , you can say that it was you who put the coin under the pillow .
Of course , that only proves that the tooth fairy didn't come to your house - - - not that the fairy doesn't exist . You might say that you can get a hundred people who will swear that they put the coin there. Again , that does not prove that the fairy didn't put a coin under some other pillows .
Some will say , " Prove the tooth fairy does exist , if you can't that's proof she doesn't exist " . It's asking the other person to do the proving .
Non-existance just can't be proven . No one should even ask .

Answer 7

That is correct. God cannot be disproved. It would be a logical impossibility. I will explain.

First, prove God does not exist. To do this you have to be able to prove he does not exist in all places, and at all times (since he may not have been at the last place you looked, but he is there now). At the very moment you accomplish this task, you become omniscient, in essence, a God.

Answer 8

Yes, until we find evidence showing God exists, then he doesn't, and there is no need to address the issue further until evidence does come forth.

I guess you can say that you can't provide positive proof that something does not exist. At best, we point to the lack of proof, as we do with leprechauns and fairies.

Answer 9

Oh dear.

Could you prove that an infinitely large badger doesn't live in the core of the world?

It can't possibly, right? The core of the earth is too small to house something infinitely sized.

But wait - it would have to exist before we can disprove it exists.

So perhaps it does... we'll just have to send someone down to find out. I nominate you...

Faulty logic. Sad.

Answer 10

if there is evidence to disprove his existence but there is not, there is many theory's but no proof.
everyone agrees that if you have more then two wittiness to something it has been "proven" true, people's life hang on this in our courts today, freedom rides on this.
we have many many many who are witnesses to God's miracles and speaking and being led by him, we also have many many who saw Jesus and recorded his events, and not just in the bible.
so by laws standards he "has" been "proven"

Answer 11

No, to say there is proof of any god makes no sense. The thing is, we don't have to prove his nonexistance, because that is impossible. YOU have to prove his existance, and you can't. As much as the bible thumpers, and quran chanters want to yell, you have nomproof those books are anything but fiction.