I have a cousin who is a lesbian and claims to be a Christian and I have heard her talk about going to heaven. Do you think this will really happen? If so, who can show me where in the Bible God says that being a homosexual is ok? Isn't romantic love/relationships/marriage meant to be between a man and a woman?
2007-10-04 05:06:35 · 24 answers · asked by The Woman With You 4 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Hello Summer: I just saw your question and your dilemma is real and unfortunately very popular. Yes, it is true that God because he loved all mankind, sent His SON JESUS CHRIST to died for sinners. But that is why he sent Jesus Christ, so that through the sacrifice of His flesh, the perfect lamb of God, we would have access and be reconciled back to God. The word Christian describes a group of people who identify themselves as those who have made Jesus Christ their Lord and Savior. If you have access to the Bible there are many scriptures you can refer to on the work of salvation through Jesus Christ (
Ephesians 1, Colossians 1 for example) there are many more. Then also Philippians 1 which describes the continuing work performed by God in bringing us to that state of his perfect and glorious bride that must be prepared to receive Jesus Christ. I read some of the answers to your question and I would like to propose this:
You asked for examples in the word of God. There are no examples in the word of God to support any type of sin.
1, God's word is truth. We must all agree on that in order to receive and understand the work of the Holy Spirit in the word of God and the work of God through Jesus Christ.
2. God is love. In his love he demonstrated that he could look beyond our sinful, unregenerate state, that is completely against the laws and will of God and provide us a way of escape. That is salvation through Jesus Christ.
3. God is unchangeable. From Genesis to Revelation, the righteousness of God and his acts in the earth, and toward men, do not change. There are conditions. The are unconditional acts of God; i.e. his love.
4. God is holy. Therefore we are, commanded not asked, to be holy even as God is holy. I Peter 1:16.
5. Jesus Christ, by the shedding of his blood on Calvary, gave us access to the presence, holy presence of God. Hebrews 10:19
6. It is better to obey God than to make sacrifices. I Samuel 15:22
7. Our bodies are the temple of the Holy Spirit and we are to flee anything that defiles the temple. I Corinthians 6:9-11
8. We are told very succinctly about what keeps us out of the kingdom of God: Galatians 5:18-26, Revelations 21:7,8.
We overcome by our faith. Our faith is built and increase by the word of God that we hear; the preached word of God; the spoken word of God.
Our faith is in the perfect blood sacrifice of our Lord Jesus Christ. Our perfection is not in ourselves but in the Lord Jesus who we must seek, pray to and obey daily. To overcome sin, you must learn to keep your OWN body (that includes your mind, thoughts, heart, emotions, and your physical nature) under subjection.
We can still say we are Christians, when we know there is sin in our lives, because we have an advocate with the Father, the Lord Jesus Christ (I John 5:7). Jesus Christ because he knows our carnal, sinful nature, prays for us daily. But it takes US to admit that we cannot walk this walk without Jesus Christ. We must submit to him and understand that there is no darkness in Him (as his adopted children -- we are in Him) at all. 1 John 1:5,6: This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare to you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all (meaning, no sin, nothing that is contrary to the holy essence of God). If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth.
If you do not mind me breaking this down a little more. If we excuse ourselves, knowingly, by saying, yes I am sinning but it is okay with God -- that is darkness, blindness. Does that mean that a person who believes that they can sin, continually, and still be saved, is not saved? What it means is that their understanding is darkened. None of us can say that we do not sin. Why? Because, the measuring line, the word of God says so. 1 John 5:8, If we say that we hav eno sin, we decieve ourselves, and the truth is not in us. HERE IS THE SECOND Part: we are not to continue in the sin because we know that we are sinning, and we know that Christ died for our sins. We are to: 1 John 5:9, confess our sins, he(meaning Jesus our advocate) is faithful and just to forgive our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
Your cousin has confessed that she is a lesbian. Her understanding, however, is darkened, because she does not yet realize that her act of lesbianism is a sin; actually something that God hates, because it is against the nature of what he created man for.
How to your turn the mind of someone that does not know? You proclaim the word of God over them in prayer and fasting. You do not have to approach them, shame them, or try to change their mind. According to 1 Corinthians 10:3, though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh: Sister, sin is a flesh thing. When you are warring for the destruction of darkness and strongholds in someone's life we have to use spiritual weapons. Even on a personal level: when you find yourself, stuck in the same bad sin, habit, stronghold, you have to use spiritual weapons to bring it down. 2 Corinthians 10:4 continues with: For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of stron holds; (meaning captivity), casting down imaginations (only deal with the truth, God's word is truth), and every thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ: (this is the part that I like to share with people who like to cast judgment on others) AND having a readiness to revenge all disobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled.
Pray for cousin with the word of God;
Father, in Jesus name, we pray for this sister's cousin and call on the might of God that is able to pull down strongholds; Father in Jesus name, we ask that you would give her the ability and power to cast down every imagination she has regarding lesbianism; in the name of Jesus we come against every thing about lesbianism that is against the knowledge of God, and we bring every thought to the obedience of Jesus Christ: according to what is written in your word. We speak love, peace, and complete reconciliation between her cousin and you through the sacrifice of Jesus Christ. You love her and we love her cousin. Because your word says that we are to love all our neighbors as ourselves. WE do not condemn her but we pray and fast for her complete deliverance. In Jesus name, Amen!
2007-10-04 09:07:32 · answer #1 · answered by true 1 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Only God knows the answer to that question and I have not been given the authority to speak for Him. I believe the homosexual lifestyle is sinful, but we all sin. The Bible does not say that being a homosexual is more sinful than telling lies or stealing from someone and I belive those sins can be forgiven.
Your cousin will get to heaven, or not, on whether she has believed in Jesus, asked for forgiveness and repented(turned from sin). The more important question, in my view, is IF your cousin is a Christian, will she continue to live the same lifestyle?
2007-10-04 05:16:05 · answer #2 · answered by uidittybop 2 · 1⤊ 1⤋
God does love everybody. Show me where in the Bible God says that being gay is not ok? There are lots of places where God shows how heterosexuals doing homosexual things is wrong, but where does God specifically talk about gay people.
(Hint: the answer is ... nowhere.)
Where in the Bible does God say that "romantic love/relationships/marriage is only between a man and a women?"
(Hint: the answer is the same as above.)
2007-10-04 05:14:12 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 2⤋
The Word of God says that all homosexuals will end up in the Lake of Fire. There is no wiggle room or grey arey to this. It is a definite fact. Matthew 19 tells us how God deals with marriage. Romans 1:20-32 and 1 Corinthians 6:9 deal with homosexuality and the evilness it is. Does this means that God hates the sinner? No, He loves the sinner but hates the sin. But He has given each and every one of us a choice: obey Him and go to heavean or do what we want and go to the Lake of Fire. It is our choice, and your cousin is choosing the later.
2007-10-04 05:54:13 · answer #4 · answered by Scott 3 · 1⤊ 1⤋
The best answer to your question should be Michelle. Her answer is excellent. Don't worry about mine, as I anticipate that my account will soon be deleted.
Those who answer your question with a no are, in my opinion, hypocrites. They presume the rights of God. The Bible clearly warns that we are not to judge. The Book of Revelation states that only Jesus who died for our sins is worthy to open the scroll of judgment.
Those who answer you question with a yes are also saying what they are unable to say. ONLY God can judge the soul of a man or woman.
The simplest answer to your question is that my personal experience and my reading of the scripture indicates that God IS love. He loves all of his children without exception.
Also, we need to be clear that the Old Testament condemns male homosexuality. Contrary to what has been said, it is not a population issue, it is a moral issue. Genesis clearly states that God created male and female and intended that they live together in married relationships.
The New Testament condemns both male and female homosexuality.
As for your sister being a Christian, I accept her at her word. Contrary to those who list conditions to being a Christian, Paul said simply that we must confess with our tongues that Jesus is Lord and believe in our hearts that he rose from the dead.
If your sister does this, she IS a Christian and no one has the right to take this from her! Sadly those who do because of her homosexuality miss the facts that by condemning her they themselves are sinning.
As for the question of your sister going to heaven, I hope she will be there. Your love for her and her faith suggest that she is quite a woman. But I, like her, believe that I will be in heaven. But I can't guarantee that. Your sister's lifestyle is between her and God. May God have mercy on the soul that stands beside her on judgment day and condemns her for her sins. I won't.
God's blessings to both you and your sister.
Pastor John
2007-10-04 05:35:26 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
Yes, even lesbians. FWIW, my sister is a lesbian, but she is waivering on the faith issue after 15 years in her chosen lifestyle.
Her partner (Raised non-religious European descent) even became a Muslim. Which was weird...
anyway....
A person living in a lifestyle of unrepentent sin will be limited in their capacity to connect with God. This is true of any sin, sexual, or otherwise. But where we are unfaithful, and at times, we all are, God is faithful to us. In Hosea, God tells Hosea to marry a prostitute, Gomer. When Gomer leaves and goes back to her sexual ways, and Hosea even has to buy her back at auction. (Can you imagine the conversation on the way home there???) God says "My nation, Israel,( which is also any one that takes on the name of God) is like Gomer."
In Hos ch 2, God Says:
"Therefore I am now going to allure her;
I will lead her into the desert
and speak tenderly to her.
There I will give her back her vineyards,
and will make the Valley of Achor a door of hope.
There she will sing as in the days of her youth,
as in the day she came up out of Egypt.
"In that day," declares the LORD,
"you will call me 'my husband';
you will no longer call me 'my master.'
He is faithful, even when we sleep with the enemy in sin.
My sin, your sin, everyone's sin is enough to keep us out of heaven. Only Christ can take that away, and this is a gift that is free to accept. Even if you are a non-believer up until the moment you change your mind.
Which just blows religion out of the water, because religions want us to practice sin management. I'm too busy spending time with God to worry about managing my sin. The sin is forgiven, past tense. "It is finished."
Anyone that says "You have to have a lifestyle that looks like -------" doesn't understand the depth of God's love.
This is a completely different discussion though from whether I consider homosexuality to be a healthy lifestyle.
2007-10-04 08:02:30 · answer #6 · answered by Moving on 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Love does not equivalent condoning sin. i admire my pal even even with the undeniable fact that i do no longer condone her alcoholic life sort. think of of God as a choose in a court docket docket. he's a loving, truthful choose. You (or me, or all people) are convicted of the crime and ought to pay $50,000. you haven't any longer have been provided that plenty; you do no longer also have a million,000. Can God be merciful and loving and purely enable you to pass unfastened? he's a purely and truthful choose! There must be outcomes for the crime. right here is how he solves it: As a choose he says, "I sentence you to pay $50,000 or die." Then he steps down from the rostrum and palms you $50,000. he's holy, so he can not enable sin. he's in order that he ought to punish sin. yet he's loving, so he discomfort for our sin already, by Jesus Christ. this is the heart of the Bible that folk so in many cases leave out. i didnt make up this analogy yet i'm hoping it fairly is effectual to you :) **P.S. ** this comes right down to the great debate of selection vs. "born that way". human beings say, Why might God make us with some thing that he does not enable? My answer is: we are all born with ranges of distinctive sin in us. gay temptations are no longer sin; it fairly is in straightforward terms appearing on them this is a sin. in a similar way that i ought to have been born with extra ANGER than somebody else, yet that isnt a sin. appearing in anger is a sin.
2016-10-10 07:24:54 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Didn't jesus help the samaritan on the sabbath? Didn't he select his followers from the scum of his society? jesus never turned anyone away that came to him and neither should we. being a lesbian is NOT in the ten commandments. know what is? bearing false witness and adultery. peace!
PS the scripture against homosexuality is in deuteronomy which is thought to be a suspect book. those laws were also written to be SECULAR laws not SPIRITURAL laws like the ten commandments, so your cousin is clear.
2007-10-04 05:12:52 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
For the New Testament take on homosexuality, read Romans chapter 1.
2007-10-04 05:18:31 · answer #9 · answered by Gee Wye 6 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Well, according to christianity he set up a system where most people who ever lived would be tortured forever...
She's not going to heaven, but only because it doesn't really exist.
Homosexuality was forbidden because it doesn't increase the tribe size like heterosexuality. Practical reasons, not moral ones.
Nobody has ever provided any evidence that any gods, much less a specific god, exist. People believe in specific gods because of indoctrination from an early age, tradition, hallucinations, fear of torture (for gods sadistic enough to threaten it) and other similarly illogical reasons. But no gods exist in reality; these are all stories, created for people who were scared of the world long before we understood it. Now we have no more reason for these superstitions.
What's the harm in religion:
http://www.abarnett.demon.co.uk/atheism/harm.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_religion
How harmful the bible is in particular:
http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/
http://www.evilbible.com/
The origin of the Jesus stories:
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcpa5.htm
http://www.near-death.com/experiences/origen048.html
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcpa2.htm
http://www.geocities.com/paulntobin/jesus.html
How illogical religion is in general:
http://godisimaginary.com/
http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/
The alternative:
http://www.religioustolerance.org/
http://www.infidels.org/
http://www.positiveatheism.org/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unitarian_Universalism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secular_humanism
2007-10-04 05:13:02 · answer #10 · answered by Dreamstuff Entity 6 · 1⤊ 3⤋
Yes it could happen
While MOST Christians will say she is damned to hell, only God is the true and last voice given in judgment
There is no passage in the Bible that will advocate gay-ism
2007-10-04 05:11:24 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋