God created you and He gave you freewill. Wow that's nice. But God is omniscient, He knows everything. In fact, He knows so much that He knows every choice (exercise of freewill) you make before you even make it. This means He created YOU knowing what CHOICES you will make beforehand. So basically He knows who's going to "heaven" and who is going to "hell" before you're even born. God created people that He knows will go to "hell." That isn't nice.
Free will cannot exist if a supreme being exists. They're mutually exclusive.
I bet many Christians won't understand this. Oh well.
2007-10-03 17:35:21 · 11 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Okay, maybe every Christian who answered this question doesn't understand.
2007-10-03 18:17:31 · update #1
You have ALMOST figured it all out...here's where you went wrong:
"That isn't nice. Free will cannot exist if a supreme being exists. They're mutually exclusive. I bet many Christians won't understand this. Oh well."
Call it what you want, but you are not released from YOUR responsibility to recognize and accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior. God will not do it for you, regardless of the fact that He already knows if you will do it or not.
2007-10-03 17:47:06 · answer #1 · answered by royalblue85 2 · 2⤊ 0⤋
You have gotten hold of a fundamentalist misconception. God sees everything that happens now but He does not always know what you are going to do next, from eating a sandwich to committing murder.
Hell did not exist when God created people. Also, God never created hell. That is something satan created. Study the Bible carefully, and you will see this. God knows who is going to live with Him eternally at any given time based on the choices that person has made (which, in the case of those people who have heard about Jesus Christ, is to accept Him as their Lord and Saviour). God constantly encourages people to choose life, but that is all He can do - encourage us. He cannot choose for us.
The term 'supreme being' simply refers to a very powerful being, one who is more powerful than anyone else, and in this context, one who created all human beings. It does not mean someone who takes away free will or who is some kind of bully on the playground.
By the way, the issue of hell and the lake of fire and sulphur are ones that I still want to investigate further. I find it interesting that there are references to unclean spirits wondering around outside the New Jerusalem.
2007-10-03 17:47:07 · answer #2 · answered by ellipse4 4 · 1⤊ 1⤋
God chooses NOT know the outcome (although He has the ability to know). The point being, God knows where everything is going (that's why you have prophecy in the bible). But what good does it do, only for God to know and not us human beings (particularly, the ones He is currently working with) ? Here's where opportunity and choice come in ... these are products or elements of God's love since God is love. Love gives people both, opportunity and choice. Further; contrary to popular belief even, JESUS went to hell (- DON"T believe me CHECK IT OUT in the Bible ... see: ACTS chapter 2, verse 31) What the word "hell" means is "grave" or "hole" from the Greek word "hades". There is no place like "hell" used as a ever-burning fire. Jesus went to "hell" - as you just read ! Conclusion: there is NO "HELL" as commonly believed, as a fire ! "Free-will" does exist because the "Supreme Being" allows it to by His Condition-free LOVE !!! YES; I do understand this !!!
2007-10-03 17:54:26 · answer #3 · answered by guraqt2me 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Your idea of G-d is limited in scope. He exists outside of time and space. He is not subject to the laws of thermo or gravity. He surpasses the point two parallel lines intersect. While, it is true that He pre-knows your decisions, He leaves it up to you to decide when to execute them. He doesn't want anyone to go to hell. He loves you more than you're aware. Take time to swirl your ideas more. Your own freewill may be the understanding you need to unlock an eternity with your maker.
2007-10-03 17:51:26 · answer #4 · answered by Sidereal Hand 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
No because we still make the choices. It is like walking along a cliff straight toward the edge. An observer knows if we do not stop we will fall to our death. But if we kept walking off that cliff we could not blame the person who knew it would happen to us, because it is us that was making the steps, ignoring the warnings.
For instance I know my birds will eat food tomorrow, but they still make the choice to eat that food I am not "forcing" them to do it. I just know they will. Knowing someone will do something does not mean that person had no choice.
2007-10-03 17:52:50 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
No. I don't think Christians ever use commonsense.
There's a good website called "God is Imaginary.com",
there's a page about freewill on there.
2007-10-03 17:47:17 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 3⤋
who r u too tell us what God does and doesn't know and what he wants for us
2007-10-03 17:59:23 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Of course Christians won't get it. Why not? Because they think there is a plan out there to explain everything.
I'm glad I have no expectations.
2007-10-03 17:46:58 · answer #8 · answered by huckleberry 5 · 0⤊ 3⤋
Christians aren't as dumb as you think they are.
we're actually smarter than you.
And...God is real.
2007-10-03 17:51:46 · answer #9 · answered by Dallas_Cowboys 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Rational thought is unreadable to Christians. All they see is "god loves you... and if you don't love him back... he'll kill you."
2007-10-03 17:39:24 · answer #10 · answered by Win Noble 3 · 0⤊ 3⤋