Christians, hear this argument regarding women pastors.?

Question

Ok, it's a short argument, but hear me out. Why would it be a sin, or going against what the Bible says if a women pastor is leading other people to Christ, and is also helping new Christians in their Christian walk? I know the Bible talks about how women aren't supposed to have authority over men, but what if women in leadership roles are furthering the kingdom of God? How could God possibly have a problem if women are leading people to Jesus? And don't tell me it's not possible for a women in a leadership role to have altar calls, or whatever avenue she uses(ala Billy Grahm etc etc).

soul, what are you talking about??

A human can lead another person to Jesus. Read the Bible. Plenty of verses talking about spreading the good news. That is leading them to Jesus...

So far you've all missed the point of my question. Of course women can lead others to Christ outside of a leadership role.

Answer 1

It was a prohibition in the New Testament established by Paul, Apostle of Jesus Christ. And it remains in practice by the Church Jesus Christ founded...the Catholic Church.

End of arguement.

Women leading people to Christ? They do that anyway without being pastors or church leaders. The Blessed Virgin Mary, Mother of God leads and directs people to her son, Jesus Christ, all the time.

Answer 2

God, said in the last days He would pour out His spirit among all flesh. So...... Why is it so hard for a man to hear a woman preach. Because they take the Bible verse's the wrong way. When it says for a woman to keep silence in the church. It was pertaining to a particular point and time. Please lets read the word. (The Bible). If a woman can't preach and lead others to Him. Why are they singing in the choirs, why are they saying Amen in the church. Women now have to spread the word because the men are to lazy to do it. All they are worried about is whom wife they are going to lay hands on after services. Come on people let's eat the whole word and not just some of it. Women should not have role over a man in certain areas in life. let them have control over the home. for they are the head. But, in the church we are all equal if we all believe and trust in our Lord.

Answer 3

I totally agree. The early Christians allowed females in leadership roles. However society itself at the time did not consider women to be valid witnesses, so a woman preaching Christ would not have been "valid" then. So naturally they were hesitant about female leadership because they would not be taken seriously.

Answer 4

Paul ( a man placed a restriction on woman serving) not Jesus.
Jesus used Mary to tell the others of his resurrection, Jesus used the Woman at the well to go tell her towns people of his knowledge he had of her.
Paul, a man who followed Jesus, knew of the social restrictions placed on a woman
in that social environment she would be excepted as a leader.

Answer 5

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Answer 6

I come from a Methodist background. Our Reverend just retired from our church. He was "replaced" with a female Pastor, with no Male Pastor above her in our church. I don't think that makes it wrong...I don't fully understand the whole concept of this topic, but that is whats happening in my church. Obviously, if it was wrong our Conference President would have said something about it.

Answer 7

I think it sounds like a consequentialist argument to me. God doesn't really fit into our philosophical reasoning, He's something bigger than that.

Also, women don't lead people to Jesus, that's not something a human can do.

Answer 8

A woman can be a pastor only if there is a man to back her up. Meaning if the Priest/Apostle (in our church)/Pastor that is higher than her is supporting her.

Answer 9

In a few places of the Bible, we find that the Apostle Paul said some things that were not inspired by God (see 1 Corinthians 11:3-10 and 1 Timothy 2:12-15). Although Paul was a Christian who was mightily used by God, we have to keep in mind that he was yet an imperfect human (as we all are) and we must be able to discern man’s flawed views from God’s word.

Adam was created before Eve but that doesn’t mean he was superior to Eve. Also, Adam was just as deceived as Eve and that’s why he ate the fruit.

In Christ, men and women are equal (Galatians 3:28). Both female and male believers in Christ are kings and priests unto God (Revelation 1:6) and God calls Christian women and men to ALL offices of ministry within the Church. In 1 Timothy 2:12, Paul said that he (not God) forbade women to teach men. In the Bible we see that God called many women to be leaders and teachers of men, women and children: prophets (Miriam, Deborah, Huldah, Isaiah’s wife, Philipp’s four daughters), military leader and judge (Deborah), disciples (Mary, Martha, Joanna, Mary Magdalene, Susanna, and “many more”), deacon (Priscilla), and church leader (Lydia).

Furthermore, in Acts 2:17-18 it says:

And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:

In the Church, God calls many Christian women to be apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors (or “shepherds”) and teachers of men, women and children.

In Ephesians 5:22, Paul instructs wives to submit to their husbands, however in the verse before he said that ALL Christians (both male and female) should equally submit themselves to one another:

Ephesians 5:21
Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.

Both husband and wife must respectfully submit to each other. Neither is superior.

In Ephesians 5:25, Paul instructs husbands to love their wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it.

It is common sense that if the husband isn’t loving and righteous, the wife should not submit to him because as Christians, we are to obey God and not men.

On 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, it is understood that men should also stay silent while the preacher whether female or male is preaching, and if they missed or didn’t understand something, they should wait until later to ask their wives or a fellow brother or sister in Christ or do their own study. The main lesson is to not interrupt the service.

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