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people have told me that christ died for our sins so that we would have a way to be forgiven, but before he did that if nobody could be forgiven did everyone end up in hell. this is a serious question i'm not trying to insult anyone

2007-10-03 12:21:42 · 15 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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No God set up a set of rules and an order of sacrifices for those who came before Christ, who came to pay the ultimate sacrifice so we would no longer have to make offerings to atone for our sins. In order to go to heaven the prechrist people had to make sacrifices of pure creatures to go to heaven.

2007-10-03 12:29:57 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

While Christians often claim the NT "changed the rules" - something called dispensationalism, and that we are no longer "under the law", you are right that that perspective ignores a huge issue about fairness.

If God is perfectly fair (as most Christians would claim he is), then all humans should have a similar "test" to reach heaven. Obviously dispensationalism runs directly counter to this, since their test was "harder" than ours.

Indeed, most Christians say keeping the law is utterly impossible, and no one save Jesus has ever done it (even though he broke a few laws, to be sure). So what they are really claiming is that Yahweh set up an impossible test to pass for a few thousand years before then passing the key to the test out to everyone starting about 2,000 years ago.

That's ridiculous, and utterly incompatible with the concept of a loving a fair deity.

2007-10-03 12:27:14 · answer #2 · answered by QED 5 · 0 0

The Hell referred to in the Bible is the grave and all men did and do die.
Christ did die for the sins of the entire world and it is written in the Bible that the lamb was slain before the foundation of the world.
We do know that Jesus is the God that created the world.
Those that know the Father know also the Son.
Christ told of Abraham knowing him and rejoicing to see his day.
Christ paid the penalty of sin which is death for all sinners before and after his actual crucifiction.

2007-10-03 12:27:34 · answer #3 · answered by djmantx 7 · 0 0

Hell isn't a bible coaching. whilst somebody dies they pass to the floor and in that day their innovations do perish. airborne dirt and mud you're and airborne dirt and mud you will return. you notice no longer something, hear no longer something, and sense no longer something. After Jesus ineffective some small form of folk might have a desire of residing forever in heaven as Kings under a Kingdom government in straightforward terms a hundred and forty four,000. those you have regrettably die in the international earlier and after that factor may be restored to life in the international. To stay under this heavenly government. So awesome that throughout the close to destiny our family participants we can see returned in the international in a wounderful paridice. A soul skill you as a residing physique. you haven't any longer have been given a soul your a residing soul. whilst God made guy he grew to alter right into a residing soul. The Bible additionally says that a soul this is sinning will additionally die.

2016-10-10 06:18:07 · answer #4 · answered by abdulla 4 · 0 0

xoxj...No, they did not. Look at the story Jesus told of the rich man and Lazarus...they both died and one went to hell the other to Abrahams bosom. Luke 16:22,23

The rich man talked to Abraham and begged him for water for he was the one that went to hell. Lazarus was in Father Abahams bosom.

This story was told by Jesus himself to his disciples.

Matt12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly, so shall the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

Ephesians 4:8,9,10.tell us that Jesus ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men. Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?

Jesus paid the price at Calvary once and for all for
whosever will.
They believed God by faith until he died, and rose ascended to the Father..presented himself as a spotless sacrifice. That is why he would not let Mary touch him at the tomb as he had not yet ascended to the Father. He had to be without blemish,,,behold, the LAMB OF GOD THAT TAKETH AWAY THE SINS OF THE WORLD! He was that lamb. amen.

2007-10-03 13:04:28 · answer #5 · answered by mary 6 · 0 0

Yes. The Hebrew word for "hell" is often interpretted "the heart of the earth", the depth, the bottomless pit, etc. Both the righteous and unrightous dead were there.

In Luke 16:23 part of one of Christ's parables says:
"And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom." KJV

Both Lazarus and Abraham were righteous, but the rich guy (he) was wicked. They're all in the same place, but Lazarus was "In Abraham's bosom".

Often in the Tanach (old testament) the righteous who die are described as being "gathered unto their fathers", that is, they are in that part of "hades" reserved or prepared for them.

Adam was given dominion over this earth. Nowhere else. Even in death, the descendants of Adam are tethered to this earth, and are thus relegated to the "heart of the earth".

Only after Christ paid the price that Adam owed could we choose to be "born from above" into Christ's heavenly family and escape the fate of being bound to the earth which will ultimately be relegated to the lake of fire.

In 1 Peter 3:18-19 we read about how Christ, after he gave his life for our sins descended to preach to the spirits imprisoned in the heart of the earth:
"For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:

By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; KJV

In Matt 27:52-54 we read about it from the perspective of those who witnessed it from their vantage point in Jerusalem:
"many bodies of the saints which slept arose,

And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.

Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus, saw the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly, saying, Truly this was the Son of God." KJV

Now those who die in Christ are instantly with him the moment death takes them.

2 Cor 5:6-8
Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord:

7(For we walk by faith, not by sight:)

8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.
KJV

2007-10-03 12:24:59 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

There is alot of confusion over hell. Why? Notice two quotations:

1. “Much confusion and misunderstanding has been caused through the early translators of the Bible persistently rendering the Hebrew Sheol and the Greek Hades and Gehenna by the word hell. The simple transliteration of these words by the translators of the revised editions of the Bible has not sufficed to appreciably clear up this confusion and misconception.”—The Encyclopedia Americana (1942), Vol. XIV, p. 81.

2. Translators have allowed their personal beliefs to color their work instead of being consistent in their rendering of the original-language words. For example: (1) The King James Version rendered she’ohl′ as “hell,” “the grave,” and “the pit”; hai′des is therein rendered both “hell” and “grave”; ge′en·na is also translated “hell.” (2) Today’s English Version transliterates hai′des as “Hades” and also renders it as “hell” and “the world of the dead.” But besides rendering “hell” from hai′des it uses that same translation for ge′en·na. (3) The Jerusalem Bible transliterates hai′des six times, but in other passages it translates it as “hell” and as “the underworld.” It also translates ge′en·na as “hell,” as it does hai′des in two instances. Thus the exact meanings of the original-language words have been obscured.

When we think back to God's original purpose for mankind, it was not a quest to try to get to heaven, but to live right here on the earth, albeit under competely different circumstances.

(Genesis 1:27-28) . . .. 28 Further, God blessed them and God said to them: “Be fruitful and become many and fill the earth and subdue it, and have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and every living creature that is moving upon the earth.”

When the first man and woman sinned God did not say there punishment would be eternal punishment in a fiery hell, he simply said they would return to the dust.

(Genesis 3:18-19) . . .. 19 In the sweat of your face you will eat bread until you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken. For dust you are and to dust you will return.”

Do the dead experience anything?

Eccl. 9:5, 10: “The living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all . . . All that your hand finds to do, do with your very power, for there is no work nor devising nor knowledge nor wisdom in Sheol,* the place to which you are going.” (If they are conscious of nothing, they obviously feel no pain.) (*“Sheol,” AS, RS, NE, JB; “the grave,” KJ, Kx; “hell,” Dy; “the world of the dead,” TEV.)

The Bible actually says that when we die we have paid for our sinful nature.

(Romans 6:23) 23 For the wages sin pays is death, but the gift God gives is everlasting life by Christ Jesus our Lord.

(Romans 6:7) 7 For he who has died has been acquitted from [his] sin.

The hope for those who died before Christ and even those who have died after, lies in Bible hope of a resurrection, a raising up from the lifeless condition of death or out of the grave for those there.

(John 5:28-29) 28 Do not marvel at this, because the hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice 29 and come out, those who did good things to a resurrection of life, those who practiced vile things to a resurrection of judgment.

2007-10-03 12:55:04 · answer #7 · answered by BJTred 2 · 0 0

if they had faith in Jehovah and His promise they went to a place in the earth seperated from the fires of hell that was at one point called Abraham's bosom... also called "the grave" or "paradise". When Christ proclaimed "it is finished" they were released and sent to heaven. (beware of the levin of the hyper-dispensationalist)

2007-10-03 12:27:26 · answer #8 · answered by Matthew P (SL) 4 · 0 0

IMO, No. Did Adam go to hell? Noah? Moses? There are many listed in the bible who are looked favorably upon and it makes no sense to condemn them to hell simply because God hadn't gotten around to sending Jesus to Earth.

2007-10-03 12:29:23 · answer #9 · answered by MistWing 4 · 0 0

No, there were two places...Paradise..the holding place of the righteous dead, and hell, the holding place for the un-righteous dead...both still exhist...but paradise has been moved from the bowels of the earth, to the "out-skirts of the temple in Heaven..or "of the Throne of God".....

2007-10-03 12:27:44 · answer #10 · answered by Mr. "Diamond" 6 · 0 0

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