Does God use the natural world to trick people into becoming Atheists?

Question

Why is it that everything that Christians attribute to God (i.e. answered prayers, miracles, communication with God, weather, etc.) can also be explained by natural causes and/or luck? Christians, even if you insist that God is responsible for these things, you cannot deny that it is at least possible for them to be explained by natural causes and/or luck. For example, if a cancer victim defies 1,000 to 1 odds and lives, you can at least argue that the person just happened to be the 1 out of the 1,000. Or, if a Christian is having a hard time deciding which career path to take, so they pray about it and end up making a decision, couldn’t someone at least argue that the person was simply using their own logic and talking out loud helped them organize their thoughts and think clearly? Do you think God set up the world so that it would be difficult for humans to tell whether things happened because of natural causes or because of divine intervention? In other words, how come nothing happens today that is undeniably the work of God?

Scott B: I agree with you, however, I would use the term “God” loosely. I am somewhat of a Deist in that I do attribute life and existence to some type of creator or creators. The term “God” seems to suggest a being that intervenes in the day to day affairs of humans. If we are correct that there is some type of Creator, I believe life and existence are the only things we can logically attribute to that Creator. In other words, I do not think he/she/it has intervened since creating it.

Answer 1

Illnesses were once called curses. Bad weather was once called wrath. Some people are just slower to catch up.

Answer 2

Let's take the cancer thing a bit further.

I have been doing a lot of reading on the mapping of cancer genes. This is being done in order to compare to the Human Genome and look for better ways to diagnose, treat and prevent cancer. In the last 30 years or so a lot of amazing things have been learnt about cancer. the human body has a whole series of defenses in place to prevent cancer. There are mechanisms for repairing defective genes, for self destructing damaged cells (Cell Suicide) and many other mechanisms in place that prevent us all from getting cancer all of the time. Then take into consideration how a cancer cell spreads and how it has to defeat not only the built in defenses but the other defenses of the body that check for abnormality, hunt it down and kill it via the immune system.

Cancer is an amazing defect in that it is not a single genetic mutation that causes it. In fact it takes several mutations that happen in concert for it to work at all. It would seem almost impossible for cancer to happen without all of these random mutations occurring one after another in the exactly correct order and in some cases simultaneously.

So the "miracle" cancer cures aren't as much a miracle. That happens to everyone one of us all throughout our lives. Our bodies are excellent machines for destroying cancer and correcting the things that lead to cancer.

What appears to be the miracle is the fact that cancer does occur at all. The mutations that must occur to cause cancer are just as hard to imagine as the mutations that have to occur to allow for mutations that lead to evolutionary change. Cancer actually utilizes the lymphatic system to facilitate metastasizing while the lymphatic system is one of the primary weapons the body uses to destroy it.

The christian attitude of "miracle cures" is all wrong, they should be praising god for this miracle illness. For the complexity of cancer surely must require an intelligent designer - right?

I am trying to make a point here that by utilizing the appearance of complexity for a desired result is not exactly miraculous. There are no "miracle" cures. I find it insane that the religious people will only find the things that are beneficial to them miraculous, yet something like cancer, that is just as complex and amazing in it's natural process is not, instead that is “god works in mysterious ways.”

Answer 3

Everyone on the planet desires desperately to know something about a higher power at work in the world. The best and brightest minds in the world have toiled their lives over this issue and have never found any good evidence of the supernatural in the world. Believers look tirelessly for evidence they can use to change the minds of non-believers but they can find none.

If there were a god who created nature intentionally, he would be a madman.

Answer 4

No, people just like to think an Invisible Sky Daddy is watching over them and they like to attribute the fact that when something good happens in their life it has to be "God's will." When something bad happens they blame it on anything but God. It's called being delusional and it's one of the reasons religion started in the first place.

Answer 5

To answer your question, no God does not trick people. It is us who ignore him into using natural explanations.
God is like the wind you can feel it but you can not see it (I believe you have heard this before).

and to answer your last question. God works miracles every day but some times we are so satisfy and so into our own things that we are waiting for God to work on our terms. God does not need from us but He loves us and weep for those that do not attend his calling because who ever denied Him on earth would be denied by God on Heaven.

---I pray for those because on what they had pleasure on(sinning) here on earth would be a cause of suffering in the after life. -----

All He wants is for us [to believe] and [turn from evil] and do good. God is love!

Answer 6

could you have faith technological understanding and faith are "one and the comparable," i'd recommend you do not understand passable approximately the two. And once you're a "effective believer" in technological understanding, think ofyou've have been given ignored the element completely -- technological understanding does not ask for or choose your "theory," it does not functionality on "theory." plenty on your declare which you're between the main ones who knows of "real technological understanding." faster or later, neither atheism nor technological understanding makes any declare that that's fabulous for there to be popularity that exists in categories previous "existence." the easy fact is, however, that there is no information of any form of one in all those ingredient. different than there may be, there is no motive to "have faith" one in all those ingredient. enable with the help of myself declare a variety of ingredient exists, is a mystical guy interior the sky, and would carry out miracles in case you ask it to.

Answer 7

Try thinking of it this way, I will concede your point that some can be attributed to natural factors or "luck", if you will concede that there are definitely things relating to the orgini of the universe we will NEVER have an answer for. So if your assertion holds true, then wouldn't the converse be true, that if it doesn't have a natural explanation, then God must exist?