Atheists do you believe that Black Holes exist? Even super massive black holes at the center of every Galaxy?

Question

It seems a very unusual position to be in have a contradiction on an unseen phenomena that is believe able but not able to be seen.

Answer 1

Here's the problem: You are confusing atheists with astronomers and physicists. Atheists are people who don't believe in divine beings. Astronomers and physicists are people who study extraterrestrial bodies and their properties.

Answer 2

I acknowledge that the theory is sound thus far, it has not met a challenge it could not face; however that was true of ether way after it was first disproved-the theory was just changed slightly each time to keep it until Einstein destroyed it finally.

I havent decided 100%, but I lean against the existence of black holes. I adamantly do not believe in dark matter or dark energy-both are desperate attempts to explain something that only needs to be explained because other theories are incomplete.

Your logic is flawed though. Just look at the ether issue. Ether was taken as fact (more because it fit so well with religion than any other reason). The theory still changed regularly and was eventually dropped. Religion works differently, when challenged it fights back and refuses to change. Religion does not seek to merge itself with new knowledge as scientific theory does.

Answer 3

Black holes are proved scientific facts and not based on faith what-so-ever. Seeing is not the only way to perceive fact You can smell a leaf fire burning in the neighbors yard across the street and not see it, yet know that it is. This is different then interpreting an event in the past as a positive indication of the Divine's existence.

For what its worth, I am not attempting to agree or disagree with your beliefs, whatever they may be. I just think that you need a better argument.

Answer 4

Unlike God, the inability to actually view a black hole is proof of its existence. By applying what we know of light to how we perceive it in the universe, we can calculate what kinds of forces are necessary to move it. Obviously, only immense levels of gravity can bend light in the ways that black holes do. Whether you believe in God or not, black holes are provable quantities. They're there. The fact that we CAN'T see them shows that they are there.

While this isn't the proper thread to go into much more detail, I can say that God is nearly provable. I am by no means a scientologist, but I believe that science can't but prove God! His existense is shown all through nature! Including astronomy. Just do a bit of research to find just how delicate the balance of universal existence is!

Answer 5

I think the problem with the scenario is that there is scientific proof that black holes exists, which is the main argument that atheists have against the existence of God. There are several things in the world that can't be seen, yet have scientific evidence that says that they do.

Answer 6

The gravitational effects CAN be seen. Using high magnification telescopes we have visual evidence of them as well by their effects on nearby stars.

This analogy to the divine is valid to those who believe in God/s but will not convince atheists

Answer 7

Wow... are you serious?

You're comparing scientifically verifiable phenenomena that can be detected in a variety of ways and are based on our best understanding of theories of gravity compared to blind faith in a bronze-age work of trashy fiction? Please!

I do not believe the theory about black holes is currently sound - they may be exotic spatially complex objects called black branes or they may be gravastars. Science changes and grows because it is self-correcting. People who are stuck with an ancient fable are mentally unable to grasp reality, aren't they?

Answer 8

um, duh, and yes, we have seen it, but i wouldnt neccesarily call it unseen. we just cant look at it cause the light is absorbed into it, also, we can tell where they are at by a massive lack of particles or a WHOLE GALAXY swirling around one tiny dot, that cant be seen.

GOD on the otherhand, just plain and simply doesnt exist. Creator of life who had no creator?

Answer 9

Good grief, I wish theists would give up this straw man. Scientists DO NOT SAY that something has to be directly visible to conclude it exists. No scientist worth his salt has EVER said that.

Answer 10

there is evidence to suggest the existence of black holes.
no one worships black holes, or attributes magical powers to them.
no one murders people for not believing in black holes.