What you have said above is pure manipulation from top to bottom. You can't prove any of the statment from bible directly. Its only fantasy of preacher, which going to be proven wrong in near future.
2007-10-03 01:49:45
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answer #1
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answered by Happily Happy 7
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Your topmost question asked about the Bible, but the rest of your question has nothing to do with Bible teaching.
The Bible does not teach a "Rapture." There will be Christians caught in the Tribulation along with non-christians.
And the Bible also teaches that the vast majority of mankind have not yet been judged for their sins. And that the only one to ascend to heaven was Jesus. So, your preacher is even more confused than you are.
The Bible also teaches that the reward of the saved is being brought by Christ at his return -- so they have not yet received their reward. And that those who do not repent will be destroyed in the Lake of Fire, which has not yet come into existence. So, no one has gone to heaven (except Christ), and there is no 'hell' (as it is traditionally conceived).
The plain fact of the matter is, your preacher does not teach biblical doctrine, so why are you trying to reconcile him to the Bible -- it can't be done. You have only discovered the tip of the dirty iceberg of false teachings. Read the Bible for yourself to discover more; and maybe you'll find the truth along the way.
2007-10-03 09:09:53
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answered by BC 6
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I'm not sure I agree with your pastor's perspective about the timing of the "rapture" (or if it will even happen) nor am I convinced that IF it happens pre-tribulation, those that remain will still have a chance to accept Christ. It makes a good story ("Left Behind" series), but the bible does NOT explicitly mention a rapture OR say what will happen to people that are "left behind"...this part of your pastor's message is speculation...popular speculation but speculation none the less!
Now, assuming he is correct, then it really isn't a "second chance" per se...it is the same chance that everyone else had...to accept Christ before they die. The people that are "left behind" haven't died yet...thus, they are still living under the original opportunity that every one of us has. It isn't a second chance...it is still their first chance! The "penalty" (if you will) of waiting until this time is that they will have to live through the tribulation and be persecuted (and quite likely martyred) for their beliefs.
2007-10-03 08:54:45
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answered by KAL 7
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Because the second chance as you call it for those who will go through the tribulation will be literally hell on earth. You will be beheaded or worse for believing in Christ. This is a time like no other time and if God didn't stop it, no life would be saved.
We are to watch and pray that we can escape these things that are coming upon the earth and that we be accounted worthy to stand before the Lord.
2007-10-03 08:51:40
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answered by Jeancommunicates 7
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I think that God doesn't give those who have died another second chance because he already did. those that have died have had plenty of chances to accept him and live a Godly life but they chose not to. The people that are still alive during the time of tribulation still have a chance to turn to him for forgiveness and be able to live in heaven. the book of revelation is very confusing and no one really knows if believers are going to end up leaving this earth before the tribulation occurs of if we will also be a part of that. but to answer your question, God already gave those who have died their second chance while they were alive. this is what i believe.
2007-10-03 08:53:22
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answered by somebody whispering 2
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Pull out your bible, and read the book of Revolation. As you read this, it will some what help you understand becuase you will see it in there in front of you. if not look here...
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/apocalypse/revelation/white.html
When the anti-Christ comes, there will be a series of 7 seals that John wrote and sent to 7 churchs of asia and they will be broken(by god, he breaks them becuase he needs to open the door to it(spiritualy). The overall impact of Vision II, then, is to show the dire and precarious position in which the faithful are now standing, as they await the final things to take place. It is described as a time of famine, plague(in one country that offects everyone), oppression, and woe.
In the final analysis one gets the sense that we (that is, the ancient "reader") are always in the sixth, just on the verge of the seventh thing happening.
when the seventh angel finally sounds his trumpet (11.15-19), then the heavenly throneroom of God is once again opened, and now there appears a new scene.
This is the opening of Vision III, the three Signs (or Portents) in Heaven, which are the centerpiece, both literarily and ideologically, of the entire work. For these three "signs" provide the explanation for why the woes and suffering described in Vision II have come upon the earth. The answer, we are now told, is that the war on earth is merely a continuation of a cosmic war begun in heaven between God and Satan (12.1-17).
At the end Satan, the Great Red Dragon, is thrown down to earth with his evil angels, and now they begin to make war on the saints(believers of god) (12.18). For his henchmen, the Dragon chooses two helpers, who are called "the beast from the sea" (13.1-10) and "the beast from the land" (13.11-18), who proceed to force all humans to worship the Dragon and the first beast. The result is that God also sends his angelic army to earth, led by the "Lamb who had been slain," and they will now take on the army of the dragon and the beasts (14.1-20). Now we have seven angels pronounce their woes on all who side with the Dragon followed by seven bowls of wrath, which turn out to be seven plagues (15.1-16.21). Once again it is the sixth that is the most important; it is the Battle of Armageddon (16.12-16) which results in victory for the armies of God.
That is the jist of what is going to happen, he wants all of his believers with him soo we dont have to go throught the 7 years of hell on earth, soo hense why he doesnt give other people a second chance.
2007-10-03 09:14:59
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answered by Anonymous
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I think he is wrong. There are those who can still get saved during the tribulation period. As a matter of fact, when Russia, Iran and two other nations come to the border of Israel to wipe them off the map, God is going to miraculously destroy those armies and all or most of Israel is going to turn to Jesus because the prophecy of Revelation will come to pass. Others around the world will see this televised and will also believe. The problem will be that the Holy Spirit will not be here to help those who believe when Antichrist demands them to denounce belief in Christ and to worship him or be beheaded.
2007-10-03 08:58:55
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answered by Anonymous
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The preacher is correct, and one of God's qualities is Justice. He is not unfair. let me explain:
God provide multiple chances to everyone, not only a second chance. However, for all people (at any time: Tribulation, Today, After Jesus, Before Jesus) their opportunities to get saved end at time of death. After the death there are only to face the judgement of God, no more chances or opportunities; no purgatory waiting that prayers or other actions from their family get them out of there, no re-encarnation to live another life, no nothing. You have to make your decisions before your time is up.
For those that fail to be saved by the time of the Rapture, and face the tribulation, there still an opportunity to be saved; however that opportunity is going to be harder than accepting Jesus right now. They will need to reject the mark of the beast and battle or escape from the antichrist system / forces.
People who die during the tribulation and did not choose to obey God will sadly go to hell. People who during the Tribulation choose to obey God by being willing to die rather than accepting the mark of the Antichrist will be saved.
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God is not unfair, to those that have die already, they got all the chances until they die. Those living during the Tribulation will get all the chances until they die. For both groups, and any other group, chances are over at time of death.
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Check the "Left Behind" books/movies series for more information. http://www.leftbehind.com/
2007-10-03 09:16:47
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answered by Darth Eugene Vader 7
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probably not the answer u'r looking for cos i'm an atheist but maybe because the bible is full of inconsistency's,contradictions and outright lying,think of it,it wasnt written by god it was written by four dudes matthew mark luke and john.matthew was the first and he didnt start till bout 40 yrs after jc died then the others followed.plus u're reading the king james version? VERSION,there have been a few my friend chopped and changed over the centuries to usually suit whoever is the head of that particular church. i guess what i'm saying is preaching is a form of manipulation whether written or spoken,if it doesnt make sense its probably just try'n to cover all its bases to keep you fearful.
2007-10-03 08:58:37
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answered by Anonymous
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Your quesiton is based on what a preacher told you. Not even HE knows what he's talking about. They all assume to much and think they understand the bible just because they wear the "robe". They don't know s h i t, and they just about know as much as a child guessing what the bible means. There is no difinite explanation as to what the bible means. It's just another book that most religions MISTAKINGLY accept as "factual". The idea of a creator was to give mankind HOPE. THE REASON TO GO ON LIVING. TO PROVIDE HOPE. THAT'S IT NOTHING MORE NOTHING LESS
2007-10-03 08:52:25
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answered by Jack 4
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The doctrine of the Rapture and Tribulation is a large amount of a disgusting, brown, semi-solid substance that has been eliminated from the digestive tract of a sexually functional male bovine.
I didn't believe in that clap-trap when I was a Christian and I'm sure not going to believe it now.
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2007-10-03 08:53:53
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answered by Weird Darryl 6
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