Jewish Scholars clearly say Trinity is POLYTHEISM so why dont Christians remove pagan ideas from the faith ?

Question

It began hundreds of years ago, when the Church changed the Bible. . .

The "New Testament": Pagan revenge

Between G-d's own miracles and the Jewish teaching of His Word, the pagan priest/pastorhoods of Egypt, Greece, and Rome were steadily losing their power over the gentile populations. They decided to fight back by creating a new religion, one that would claim to be the fulfillment of the Hebrew "Old Testament," yet would bring back the pagan lies in a new disguise.

Thus the "New Testament" was written, in Greek rather than Hebrew, and attached to the original Hebrew scriptures to try to change their meaning back toward paganism.

The "New Testament" tried to change G-d from One, as in the Hebrew scriptures, into a "trinity" as in Egyptian cults or the eastern religions of Hinduism and Buddhism. It described Jesus as G-d in a human body, like the pagans always described Pharoah and other wicked kings. It declared G-d's Law to be a "curse" that no one can truly obey, announced that there must be a "mediator" between G-d and man, and pretended that salvation could now be achieved outside the Law.

To blind the gentile nations, the "New Testament" also warned people not to learn from the Jews, declaring that Israel no longer possessed the true, complete Word of G-d.

In the Bible, the book of Daniel warned of an evil power--a false religion--that would believe in the true "G-d of fortresses... plus a god its fathers did not know." This religion would "speak bizarre words about the Most High, wear out the holy ones (the Jews), and plan to change the festivals and the religious Law."7 The Christian Church has indeed replaced Passover with Easter (the pagan holiday of Astarte and Ishtar) and Hanukah with Christmas (the pagan winter holiday).


http://www.noahide.com/paganism.htm


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Jewish Ruling concerning Christianity :

"...according to the known Jewish ruling that Christians are IDOL worshippers." (Likkutei Sichos 37:198)


http://www.noahide.com/infiltration/xmas.htm

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"GRETCHEN WILSON" = Pakistani Christian.

She is full of deception.

LOL

Answer 1

This is just pathetic. While you beleivers fight among yourselves who is right and who is wrong, real sh** happens out there, you know. Go help those in need and stop hair-splitting!

Answer 2

True Christianity teaches monotheism. The trinity teaches polytheism. There is not one verse in the Bible where Jesus (the founder of Christianity) said that God was triune and that he was the second person of the trinity. Instead of saying that the Father, Son, and holy spirit made God, he said at John 17:3 that his Father was the ONLY true God.

The trinity, on the other hand, promotes polytheism. It teaches that there is a separate God the Father, a separate God the Son, and a separate God the holy spirit. How many gods is that? THREE!

If the Bible teaches the trinity, ask yourself:

Why are Christians told to pray only to the Father part of God instead of the whole godhead? Matt. 6:9.

Why is it that only one part of God knows the day of judgment, while the other 2 parts of the same God are just as much in the dark as the angels? Matt. 24:36

Why is it that one part of God died and stayed dead for 3 days? Matt. 16:21

Why is it that one part of God (the holy spirit) did not fully know either the Father or the Son? Matt. 11:27

True Christians also reject pagan holidays like Easter, Christmas, and Halloween. They also shun the cross, a pagan symbol that predates Christianity by thousands of years.

Answer 3

No. Trinity is monotheistic concept because we worship on true God. We do not believe there are any other gods than God of Abraham.

There are religins like Jehovah's Witnesses who belive that Trinty is polytheistic religion but then they believe that Jesus is one god among other gods. Jesus is also an angel, and son of god, and Savior.

So if Jesus can be all that, why one true God cannot be the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit?

Answer 4

Because if they gave up THAT paganism, they'd have to give up the rest too.

You know, like a messiah born of a god and a human virgin, a human virgin blood sacrifice for sin, Original Sin, burning eternal hellfire, and all the rest of the doctrines and foundations that make their religion what it is.

Answer 5

I did not notice which "Jewish scholars" you are referring to.

While all decisors refer to the trinity concept as "shituf," your further assumption is far from accurate. The reference to the Rambam that you gave us is selective, it omits what does not fit into your thesis, and even then it does not back up your claim.

It is a pity that people post inaccurate claims on Yahoo Answers. They tend to propagate hatred, and that is a bad thing.

Particularly on Hoshana Rabba. A good quittel.


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Answer 6

You and the rest of your trolls bash both Christianity and Judaism. Are you trying to get everyone to hate everyone except for yourselves? Forget it--we're far too smart for that.

Oh, and by the way--do you really think that citing fringe lunatic groups as "scholars" is really helping your case, or just showcasing your own ignorance?

Answer 7

because the last people we want to listen to concerning the nature of God is the Jews. They have been entrusted with the Law, and the works of God in written form. Within those writings they have certain prophesies which are concerning them. Some of those prophesies include those to a disbelieving people, who will not understand it when the new covenant is made, and will remain that way until the Messiah comes in the Day of Vengeance.

So it would be foolish to look at what the Jews believe, but it would be wiser to look at what they won't believe. And that's what I do, and this is wisdom that God has given me.

Answer 8

i agree with the first answer

you sit there and find flaws in mythology

you can say jews say christianity is a scam but on the other hand they say islam is a scam as well they say mohammed just rehashed jewish folklore and changed the storie around to fit his agenda

its amazing that people still believe in this crap over 2800 gods and you actually think yours is real and the other ones arent amazing

and i agree with julia as well hell is an entirely pagan idea it come from the greeks

so shouldnt the pagan idea of etrenal torment be taken out of islam

Answer 9

Modern day (non messianic) Jewish Scholars aren't filled with the Holy Spirit.

1 Corinthians 2:14
The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.

If the Jews rejected Jesus of course they're going to reject the Trinity.

1 John 2: 23No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.

24See that what you have heard from the beginning remains in you. If it does, you also will remain in the Son and in the Father. 25And this is what he promised us—even eternal life.


Just also like to point out God refers to Himself as We and our in places.
eg.
Genesis 1:26
Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground."

For a bigger study please check link given in sources, cause the trinity is quite a difficult thing to try and get head round (


The Trinity isn't however Polytheism,
It saying there is one God who exists as three distict persons Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
Its like if you tried to show a cube to a guy living in a 2 dimentional world, who'd only ever seen squares before.

The 2d guy couldn't percieve or take in the whole cube at onse, but you could for example show him the differant faces of the cube one by one, and explain to Him that they were all the same cube, even though He might insist that the cube was actually 8 differant squares, it would still actually only be one cube.

Answer 10

While I wouldn't phrase things quite the way Poppy did, she's basically right. You seem to have a "thing" about the Trinity. Fine - don't believe in it. The doctrine of the Trinity results from a fairly close reading of Scripture anyway. That word never appears explicitly anywhere in either Testament. Nonetheless, I think the argument for it can be made.

And, by the way - just because Jewish scholars say it's polytheism doesn't make it so.