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David vows to will kill "any that pisseth against the wall."


1 Samuel 25:22 ------ So and more also do God unto the enemies of David, if I leave of all that pertain to him by the morning light any that pisseth against the wall.

"A person could piss against a tree, he could piss on his mother, he could piss on his own breeches, and get off, but he must not piss against the wall -- that would be going quite too far. The origin of the divine prejudice against this humble crime is not stated; but we know that the prejudice was very strong -- so strong that nothing but a wholesale massacre of the people inhabiting the region where the wall was defiled could satisfy the Deity." -- Mark Twain, Letters from the Earth


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2007-10-02 14:03:23 · 9 answers · asked by Mithrianity 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Walls don't like golden showers, I guess

2007-10-02 14:10:01 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

1 Samuel 25:22 (New International Version)
New International Version (NIV)
Copyright © 1973, 1978, 1984 by International Bible Society


22 May God deal with David, [a] be it ever so severely, if by morning I leave alive one male of all who belong to him!"
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That is how the New international version translates it. The King James version uses the pissing against the wall to refer to the men of Nabal's tribe. The pissing not only refers to them being male but it refers also to the insult against David's "wall of men" who surrounded Nabal's people in the mountains.

Nabal had refused Davids demand for tribute to be paid. When Abigail heard what her Husband had said to David's 10 ambassadors she loaded up the supplies and rushed of to Davids camp to beg forgiveness for her husbands refusal to pay tribute and avoid 400 armed men from David's army slaughtering her along with her tribe.
Notice that she explicitely declares that David can kill her husband, Nabal, and his armed men without any further concern on her part. She is quite blatantly deserting her husband and offering herself to David in order to save her life.

2007-10-02 21:25:59 · answer #2 · answered by Y!A-FOOL 5 · 1 0

Look at verse 16. David's men had served as a wall of protection around Nabal's possessions and now Nabal repaid that kindness with insult.

2007-10-02 21:23:57 · answer #3 · answered by sympleesymple 5 · 0 0

"And it came to pass, when he began to reign, as soon as he sat on his throne, that he slew all the house of Baasha: he left him not one that pisseth against a wall, neither of his kinsfolks, nor of his friends." ( I Kings 16:11)

"therefore, behold, I will bring evil upon the house of Jerobo'am, and will cut off from Jerobo'am him that pisseth against the wall..." (I Kings 14:10)

2007-10-02 21:25:51 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

It is interesting, I found another verse that talks about a wall and drinking piss. The bible is quite a" HOLY" book!.
2 Kings 18:27 (King James Version) 27But Rabshakeh said unto them, Hath my master sent me to thy master, and to thee, to speak these words? hath he not sent me to the men which sit on the wall, that they may eat their own dung, and drink their own piss with you?

2007-10-02 21:10:22 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

One may not rewrite the Bible and add words. Its blasphemic. Where on earth will the Bible, a holy book talk about pissing against a wall ? Be washed of your sins you sinners for the time is nye !

2007-10-02 21:19:36 · answer #6 · answered by BRADLEY SUMMERS 1 · 0 4

"May God deal with David, [a] be it ever so severely, if by morning I leave alive one male of all who belong to him!"

the NIV reads better

2007-10-02 21:09:07 · answer #7 · answered by zero_or_die77 3 · 1 3

ah yes the beautiful story of Abigail, a true and virtuous woman of God who talked David into having mercy on his enemies and was well rewarded by becoming his bride. What was the point exactly of taking this verse out of context?
Surely you don't want to be God's enemy!

1 Samuel 25:20-26 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)
by the way where the ** are the word is "***" as in donkey



20And it was so, as she rode on the ***, that she came down by the covert on the hill, and, behold, David and his men came down against her; and she met them.

21Now David had said, Surely in vain have I kept all that this fellow hath in the wilderness, so that nothing was missed of all that pertained unto him: and he hath requited me evil for good.

22So and more also do God unto the enemies of David, if I leave of all that pertain to him by the morning light any that pisseth against the wall.

23And when Abigail saw David, she hasted, and lighted off the ***, and fell before David on her face, and bowed herself to the ground,

24And fell at his feet, and said, Upon me, my lord, upon me let this iniquity be: and let thine handmaid, I pray thee, speak in thine audience, and hear the words of thine handmaid.

25Let not my lord, I pray thee, regard this man of Belial, even Nabal: for as his name is, so is he; Nabal is his name, and folly is with him: but I thine handmaid saw not the young men of my lord, whom thou didst send.

26Now therefore, my lord, as the LORD liveth, and as thy soul liveth, seeing the LORD hath withholden thee from coming to shed blood, and from avenging thyself with thine own hand, now let thine enemies, and they that seek evil to my lord, be as Nabal.

2007-10-02 21:08:54 · answer #8 · answered by sisterzeal 5 · 2 2

The Bible does not say that. Before you quote a verse, you might want to look it up to see if you're right.

2007-10-02 21:07:18 · answer #9 · answered by Suzi♥Squirrel 4 · 0 5

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