What was so special about Jesus' sacrifice?

Question

It's not as if Jesus burned in Hell for eternity like the rest of us are supposedly going to (I know many of you DON'T believe in a Hell of eternal torment).

Besides, how many of you wouldn't give up your only child to save the eternal souls of millions? How could I expect any less of ANYBODY in Jesus' position?

Besides, some people believe that WE choose Hell for ourselves, but others believe that God choose us for Hell:

"Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honor, and another unto dishonor? What if God, willing to show His wrath, and to make His power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: and that He might make known the riches of His glory on the vessels of mercy, which He afore prepared unto glory." Romans 9:21-23

Either way, NO MATTER HOW YOU SPIN IT, it is God that made Hell. It is God that created beings he knew would burn in Hell. Why create them? There's no reason but pure evil.

So if God created Hell, and if God created us anyway, even though he knew we would burn in Hell, then how is Jesus' sacrifice still special?

God gave us TWO options. Heaven or Hell and nothing in between. He could have given us Heaven or nonexistence. But he didn't. It's like covering a football field with strictnine-filled hypodermic needles, clearing a narrow path through the middle and telling a toddler that there are cookies for him on the other side if he can only avoid all those neat-looking, prickly things. Only you say it in Latin. And the child, as is the nature of children, played with a few on the way to the cookies and died.

So you could say, "Well, the toddler CHOSE the hypodermic needles," BUT WHO PUT THEM THERE!???

God created Hell anyway.

Jesus didn't suffer as we will.

God got his son back.

You say you love him because the Bible tells you that what he did is actually worth loving him for, even though if you thought about it logically, he is not deserving and neither is God.

So what's the big deal?

Answer 1

True, a little "irreverent" but still true.

Edit:
I still wonder why sacrifice is needed for forgiveness. I punish my children, but I forgive them long before I start punishing. Also the punishment is not as a "wage" it's to teach them and it's proportional to the offense.

Edit 2:
Oh please! God ordained sacrifice, the killing of animals to cloth Adam and Eve was a foreshadowing of Jesus - the was the plan, so yeah pure evil in that God essentially created us to fail.

Answer 2

What is so special about Jesus sacrifice is that he didn't have to. He could have found that humans just weren't worth saving, but he did find those of good heart. He did make the sacrifice. What hurt Jesus, is that he was not excepted as the son of man, he was misjudged and killed. Jesus knew the pain and suffering, billions would face, in his death. He also knows that our Father, the one who is, the one who was, and the one who will always be, has the power to make all things right.
God gave to man freewill, at mans choice. This is why you do not question God. See, a World of pain and sorrow, happiness for very few. Jesus doesn't need us, but he does want our love and respect. We need Jesus, I need Jesus, and I love him with all my heart. I think hell has been used as scare tactic, by man. God will simply forget you. You ignore him, He'll ignore you.
God gave us the ability to choose. He could have made us all love him, but just how meaningful is that? Don't you respect love freely given from ones heart? More than some automaton, that simpley made to do so. God wants our love because we choose to give it. The path of light, is narrow.

Answer 3

First off ...God made Hell for Satan and his angels(Jesus said) so that means it was created after Lucifer's fall from grace.After Adam and Eve blew it,people still didn't go to Hell if they were unbelievers They went to Hades ,a holding pen. Then ,after Moses received the Law where there could be a sin offering,the un-repentant now were in a different part of Hades ,where as the believers(that believed their sacrifices were the down payment for a future total cleansing) now went to Paradise.
Remember,Jesus was God from all eternity .He just wasn't born "the Son of God".Whoever was going to make that total cleansing had to be perfect.No one is perfect but God.So God had to become a man but be perfect.That is the importance of the Virgin Birth.Now this girl,this descendant of David is "Invitro-fertilized " so to speak,with God the second person of the trinity,so he is born without the sin of Adam on Him.Now God can grow ,preach ,teach and still be able to be nailed to a cross(Whereas Jesus says in John 4 "God is spirit..") Now he is a man ,very much man and God very much God.Jesus volunteered for this .God didn't just force it on him as Abraham was going to do to Isaac.Phillipians says "Although Jesus thought it not robbery to be equal to God yet for us ,He emptied Himself and became a pauper..." Hebrews says (12) "For the joy that was to come from this Jesus suffered this humiliation"...
John1, Collosians1,and Hebrews1 all tell us that Jesus was there at creation and created everything.His sacrifice was indeed VERY special,no one else could do it.All one has to do is acknowledge it ,accept ti and thank Him and no one ever has to go to Hell.After the resurrection ,Jesus told all in both compartments of Hades how He fulfilled all prophecy and led the souls in Paradise up to heaven ,where we now go if we are saved .God knows some will end up in Hell but they have (or had) the free will not too.You can't blame the stop sign if someone runs it and gets in an accident.

Answer 4

The Bible seems to indicate that Hell was not initially intended for human beings. The verse says "Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels" (Mat 25:41). The eternal God knew what would inhabit Hell before anyone was to go there, but the angels rebelled first, and Hell is for them. Those humans who follow that path go there as well; they are also angels, so to speak. Angel means messenger.
But Christ was not just God's Son, He was God, the Son. God came down and satisfied justice by dying in our place. He died, undeserving, so that we could live though we all deserve hell. Nobody goes to hell that doesn't want to. Problem is, people just don't want punishment. They still don't want God. So, hell sort of dignifies the worth of God's creation without permitting such evil examples into heaven. And nobody knows what hell is like except that it is the place of being totally left out of God's favor. It is the place of the univited, and though residents will exist forever in this antiparadise, they will eternally regret that they spit on God every day of thier worthless lives while they were on the earth. You make a point about God creating something that he knows is going to be unfortunately used, but sometimes that is all you can do to achieve the positive goal. He wants to inhabit heaven. It takes repentance to achieve and that is a choice. Car manufacturers make thousands of cars every year knowing that a certain percent will be used as getaway cars, child-snatching vehicles, drunk driving fatalities and hit and runs. Nonetheless, they are not evil for doing this. What they have created is a good product that some will abuse. Prisons are built too, not because we want to put people there, but because they choose a life of societal evil that must be restrained. God is a very good god. And hell is nothing to anyone who will recognize that and take him up on his offer. What do you say?

Answer 5

Quite right. I'm also intrigued at the way so much is made of his suffering. It was certainly ghastly, according to reports, but more horrible things are being done to people daily, all over the world.

As you so rightly point out, his scourging and crucifixion is certainly awful, but how does it rate next to eternal burning in a Lake of Fire? I've seen a charming video of a hapless Kurd being murdered by some of Saddam's men, who pushed a sharpened stake into his anus, lifted him up on it, and pulled him down until the stake came out through his face!

Despite the appalling Mel Gibson's best efforts, I don't think it matches.

CD

Answer 6

My friend You could only imagine the life i lived before i met JESUS! for myself. Its not just a beliefe in your mind as i found out. It is an actual experience with him. However no one can meet him except he be called. So my advice to you is quit fighting, and ask him to reveal himself to you personally. I pray he does for you what he has done for me! I have never enjoyed a more perfect life! Your right tho, GOD created all things, both good and evil! without light there would be no darkness. And without sin there would be no forgivness, and no eternal life. Personally i would not even care if there was no after life, Just to know him and be partacker of the love and peace and love i feel now in this life is worth it all.

Answer 7

Keep on running your mouth, you might get what you deserve. Not one of us deserves heaven, it is completely by God's grace that we have hope of eternal life with Him. How pathetic you are to water down the sacrifice that God gave by His blood! How full of hate you are that you think you have the right to tell God how things ought to be. Well honey, He is God and you are not. He does not owe you mercy and He certainly will not force it upon you. Oh, hell was not created for you or me. It was created for the devil and his demons
( Matthew 25:41 ).

Answer 8

The particular section approximately Jesus sacrifice became the indisputable fact that he had organic blood, in basic terms as Adam did. everybody else has impure blood because of the fact the impurites of the blood have been presented by ability of the devil while he took administration of the earth after Adam gave him the rulership of it. Jesus Christ had to have organic blood so as that it became harmless blood. additionally it had to be organic to be the suited offering particularly than the disobediance of Adam who had organic blood. in basic terms Jesus Christ would have been the properly suited offering as he became the sole guy after Adam to have this organic blood and this became because of the fact he became created in Mary's womb and not from Joseph.

Answer 9

Regarding "hell", please explain this passage:

Revelation 20:14  And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

If "hell" is a place of burning, then why is it being "cast" into a burning "lake of fire"? It doesn't make sense. It is the misconception of "hell" that confuses people.

This website should clear up the misconceptions regarding "hell":

http://www.helltruth.com/

There is an essay/booklet on salvation on this website that may answer your question:

http://www.amazingfacts.org/FreeStuff/OnlineLibrary/tabid/106/ctl/ViewMedia/mid/447/IID/90/LNG/en/7/Down-From-His-Glory/SC/R/3/Christ/Default.aspx

GOD bless

Answer 10

First of all - Jesus was sacrificed in the same way animals were sacrificed. He shed blood for atonement of sins.

Second - You don't know what hell is, do you? Hell is the absence of God, just as darkness is the absence of light. There is no other place for those who want nothing to do with him.

Third - Your free will is a gift. God could force you to love him but he doesn't because then your love wouldn't be genuine. He made you with the capacity to turn away from him and choose hell - the absence of him. It's your choice. You'll never succeed in blaming God for that I promise you.