CALLER 2: What's really funny is, they never talk to real soldiers. They like to pull these soldiers that come up out of the blue and talk to the media.
LIMBAUGH: The phony soldiers?
KELLY: All right, so that was a caller, obviously, calling in. And now Democrats, including Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid [D-NV], are demanding an apology from Limbaugh. Rush says if anyone needs to apologize to our military, it is Harry Reid. Now, let me just give you some background on this quickly. Rush originally used this term, "phony soldiers," when he was talking about a guy named Jesse MacBeth. Jesse MacBeth never served in Iraq, says Rush. He claimed to have a Purple Heart; he didn't. This guy was propped up by the left, because he opposes the Iraq war, as some sort of hero, as a talking-points guy, this Jesse MacBeth was, and Rush Limbaugh was making the point that this guy was basically a "phony soldier," and he was trying to say that sometimes people on the left use "phony soldiers"....
2007-10-02 11:15:56 · 13 answers · asked by Anonymous in Politics & Government ➔ Military
Seems to me that Congress should have a lot more to worry about than this jerk Limbaugh. Limbaugh is a hypocrite extremist. It does not bother me that he is on the air, what bothers me is he is on some radio stations (Armed Forces Radio for one) that are paid for with tax payer dollars. No political extremist, neither left nor right, should be on the air paid for by the tax payers. These Media-Matters people are extremist also. What they said about Gen. Patrious is terrible. This man is defending us with everything he has. He does not deserve for some civilian group of left wing idiots making derogatory posters about him like that. Both sides need to quite the name calling. I believe that if a person chooses not to be part of the solution, then don't be part of the problem. Limbaugh is probably right about this MacBeth fella, I dislike those PX heros myself, but Limbaugh forfeited any credibility with me long ago when he turned to the UCLU over his drug charge after slamming them for years. He is a hypocrite!
P.S. IF YOU WANT TO BE A PART OF THE SOLUTION!!!
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2007-10-03 12:37:00 · answer #1 · answered by Brad M 5 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Hmmm, lets see.....
Rush Limbaugh is lambasted for Not Serving by Many here who fawn over Bill Clinton, a Certified Draft Dodger.
Tom Harkin, Democratic Senator lambasts him over the "Phoney Soldier" Remark, Yet Harkin used to claim Vietnam Combat Flying against North Vietnamese MIG fighters.
the truth?
He flew Ferry Planes from Japan to the Phillipines. Harkin never flew in Combat, ergo he is a "Phoney Soldier"
Limbaugh was talking about Jesse Macbeth, Micah Wright, and Jimmy Massey, all Faked, defrauded their way into Leftwingnut Messiah status before being exposed as frauds.
2007-10-02 11:32:15 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 3⤋
Perhaps I'm confused. Are we "lieing" about the minute and a half that Mr. Limbaugh has conveniently left out of his recording?
Or are you talking about older "lies", like Mr. Limbaugh getting caught with drugs?
Or is it our "lie" about how Mr. Limbaugh never served in the military?
Perhaps it's our "lieing" about his three divorces while he touts "family values"?
Yes, I have learned that the neo-cons have a different languange, that only sounds like English. For example, the word "lie" in English means "A false statement deliberately presented as being true; a falsehood."
In neo-con, the word "lie" seems to mean "a fact not favorable to the neo-con philosophy".
George Orwell got it pretty close. He just missed the date by 23 years.
2007-10-02 12:08:13 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 2⤋
Limbaugh is a frigging drug addict and alcoholic, why would you want to defend this right wing, quasi-socialist, fat boy who's only association with a bible is when he used it to snort his Oxycontin
And the only thing he ever defended was his dinner... and hoho's
southron, I really hate saying this, but I think you could have followed Hitler too, like maybe as an S S Officer
2007-10-02 11:48:24 · answer #4 · answered by graciouswolfe 5 · 2⤊ 1⤋
Wow, you Cons keep editting the exchange, eventually you'll have it down to, "Wha-" and "Thu-".
Fact is, you can remove EVERYTHING after "Caller 2" says, the funny thing is, if you arent going to include what Rush was referring to earlier, what PROMPTED Caller 2 to say they "never talk to real soldiers". He was talking about a letter which was pubished on the Op-Ed page of the New York Times. In that letter, several members of the US Army Rangers stationed in Baghdad supported withdrawing the US troops from Iraq, as it is obvious no progress is being made in pacification, return to regular relations with Iraq, etc. The Iraqis want us gone, the soldiers want to BE gone (suicides of soldiers stationed in or going to Iraq has hit record highs these past 2 years) and that's what Rush and "Caller 2" were speaking in response to.Nowhere before or after this exchange you quote does Rush or the callers mention Jesse MacBeth, but Limbaugh himself has tried to spin his comments by saying he was referring only to MacBeth. Show me a complete transcript, more complete than THIS one:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200709270010?f=i_related
And I will be happy to listen to it. Until then, I believe a pill popping right wing Draft Dodger called real soldiers dying in Iraq "PHONY" simply because they are against the war.
Two days after that letter was published in the New York Times, two of those so called "phony soldiers" were killed in action in Baghdad. When was Rush in the military again? Oh yes thats right, an "anal cyst" prevented him from serving his country, the country he claims to love so much, in the military.
A Pill-popping draft dodger calling real heros such as the men who wrote that letter "phony" makes me sick to my stomach.
2007-10-02 11:27:00 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 5⤋
It is a bit of smoke and mirrors on both sides. Harry Reid picks and chooses what part of some Limbaugh broadcast to criticize and Rush does the same back. They are both full of it.
2007-10-02 11:22:22 · answer #6 · answered by fangtaiyang 7 · 1⤊ 3⤋
Rush Limbaugh needs to apologize to all the guys--my father included--who were drafted and served while Rush avoided service because of a minor medical problem (pilonidal cyst).
2007-10-02 11:20:36 · answer #7 · answered by Nicole B 5 · 5⤊ 4⤋
Turnabout is fair play. It's not like it matters- has this little circus changed the way you think about Rush Limbaugh? Me neither.
2007-10-02 11:21:48 · answer #8 · answered by Beardog 7 · 0⤊ 4⤋
Rush Limbaugh is a joke. A rough quote from: "I think that all drug abusers should be thrown in jail." 2 months later he was caught with oxycotton (sp?).
2007-10-02 11:19:13 · answer #9 · answered by OwNaGeR 3 · 6⤊ 3⤋
Because 'Media Matters'[founded by Hillery and Soros] said it was true....we know now from the audio tapes it is NOT true.
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phony soldier remark referred to Jessee MacBeth http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2Il0TJflq0&mode=related&search=
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Anatomy of a Smear
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm84gOXkZaY&mode=related&search=
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John Gibson: Media Matters Is Lying About Rush Limbaugh!
MM left out the 'rest of the story'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iA3KE7naoSA&mode=related&search=
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2007-10-02 11:19:09 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 3⤋