Faith is not evidence of things unseen unless it is placed in the Biblical God, right? (Otherwise, a Muslim or Scientologist's faith is equally valid to Christian faith.)
Is this like a judge saying "Only evidence that proves the defendant's innocence can be used. Everything else is faulty, mistaken, or planted."
2007-10-02 08:01:07 · 12 answers · asked by Eleventy 6 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Jon M: So it's only "valid" where it agrees with your faith?
2007-10-02 08:05:24 · update #1
I believe that Muslims' and Scientologists' faith are misguided, but if their faith calls them to love people and God, then it is at least as "valid" as my Christian faith.
So I guess it depends on whose mouth the words "biblical God" is coming out of. If a fundamentalist's: faulty, mistaken, planted to the extent that they practice judgment and condemnation over love. If a Christian's: valid to the extent that they practice love over judgment and exclusion.
2007-10-02 08:03:50 · answer #1 · answered by Acorn 7 · 2⤊ 4⤋
LOL@ Jon M
Yeah- faith, hope, expectation, wishful thinking, etc- I wish you were guilty so I'm gonna punish you just in case. I hope I'm getting rich on Friday so I'll spend all my money today. That mentality is counterproductive, especially in the case of a human looking to live life to its fullest.
Living for faith is no different than the examples given above. If I have faith that my chair is made of purple sticky punch, that's just fine. It doesn't mean that its gonna get me stoned if I smoke it. I might just be right- maybe I smoke it and its a nice tasty Maui... you can tell what I'm gonna be doing when I get home... maybe I smoke it and its plastic and nylon. I won't know till I try, but if I have FAITH that it will taste like heaven and smell like a skunk's butthole- it still doesn't make it true. I could write a book about it and get 10000000 people to believe me. It would still be a lie.
2007-10-02 08:31:30 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
actualy... no. Faith is the one bit of evidence that any religion can have. Evidence doesn't always prove anything, it just merits a closer look. A moslem's faith in Allah is a good reason for someone who doesn't already know the truth to take a look at the moslem's beliefs. A Bhudist's faith in karma merits one who does not already know the truth to look into what that Bhudist believes. Faith is an evidence of those things which are not seen. If no one has faith in a particular unseen thing, it's hard to even sugest that it could possibly be real. Faith is an evidence, not a proof. The proof of Jehova God is in his manifestation, Jesus Christ. If you can't believe the things that Jesus did were of God... well I feel sorry for you, and one day when you see Jesus on the great white throne and the books of your works are opened... you'll have all the proof you need.
2007-10-02 08:08:02 · answer #3 · answered by Matthew P (SL) 4 · 0⤊ 2⤋
Exactly.
That is why faith is unreliable. Faith is the same in every religion, but every religion claims that all other religious faith is misplaced.
I believe that all religious faith is misplaced. Faith is a powerful force that causes humans to motivate themselves into action. Most of us believe that hard work and thought pays off. Many are motivated by that faith and do work hard and think through problems, which causes us to do well and be rewarded.
That is positive faith in action, we don't know that hard work will result in good things, but believe it unseen.
Religious faith has a history of causing conflict, pain and violence throughout every religion.
The less violent religions still have an element of conflict that is caused by their faith, families are split up, friendships dissolved over them. The more 'faithful' followers are, the more violent the religion tends to be. It takes a tremendous amount of faith to let your teen-aged son strap a bomb to his body and board a bus, without trying to stop him.
Religious faith is dangerous especially when applied to old uneducated religious text.
2007-10-02 08:11:20 · answer #4 · answered by ɹɐǝɟsuɐs Blessed Cheese Maker 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Faith is believing in something you haven't seen; it may have nothing to do with God or religion.
You will travel on an airplane because you have faith in the Pilot.
Once, I traveled on a train in New York driven by a youngster who learned by reading books. He did a fairly good job until he got stuck on the tracts and didn't know how to free the train. You see, I had faith without reason. Faith and reason goes together.
2007-10-02 08:19:09 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
Nice analogy. I like that. I don't even have to say anything else, you pretty much know the standard answer us atheists give.
But I do kind of agree with John M on the last part. Regardless of whether their faith is false or not, if it gives people hope and happiness, why try to take that away? Whatever suits them, right?
2007-10-02 08:05:08 · answer #6 · answered by Uliju 4 · 3⤊ 0⤋
faith potential countless issues. the religion human beings have interior the absence of info is a distinctive theory to the religion somebody has whilst they sit down in a chair, or the religion somebody has interior the postal provider whilst they deliver a letter. So technically that is nevertheless faith in case you have info, in spite of the undeniable fact that that's a distinctive meaning of the be conscious.
2016-10-10 04:25:38 · answer #7 · answered by ? 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Faith isn't evidence of anything. It's hope, belief, desire, but it's not evidence. Evidence is something someone besides you can see.
2007-10-02 08:23:09 · answer #8 · answered by chasm81 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Wow. Very powerful argument, Eleventy. I guess it IS like a judge saying that, which obviously proves it's wrong.
2007-10-02 08:08:04 · answer #9 · answered by Linz ♥ VT 4 · 2⤊ 0⤋
There are many evidences look at your sorroundings.
God made everything seen and unseen
2007-10-02 08:09:42 · answer #10 · answered by sweetie29 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋