It use to be you're not a real Marine unless you have 2 NJP's.
Chesty Puller had 11 NJPs and a Court-Martial and he retired as a 1 or 2 star general I think.
Before it was the norm to have NJP's or even a Court-Martial.
If you look at a Record Book of a MSgt, MGySgt or a CWO they usually have pages of page 11's, NJPs and they still made those high ranks.
Now the youger guys comming in are getting kicked out for petty stuff.
How are the changes comming about and why?
I got this info myself when I was on active duty. I used to maintain SRBs
2007-10-01 21:11:47 · 7 answers · asked by Anonymous in Politics & Government ➔ Military
I understand... when I was serving, the standard "joke" was you couldn't make CPO (E-7) without a DUI, an Divorce, and a Captain's Mast in your record.
IT has come about with the down-sizing of our forces starting in 1991, and the Political-Correctness of the administration of 1992-2000.
Of our Commands "Senior Sailor of the Year" over a decade, most had 3 or 4 NJP's on the books, a minor alcohol problem, and a divorce or two...
I had a DUI in 1986 as a student (under orders to drive given by a drunken LCDR and AWCS)... yet after a series of chewing-outs, graduated top in my class and continued on with my career... in fact, after becoming eligible for the Chief's exam, I was selected for and commissioned as a LDO and left in 1999 as a LCDR (OE-4)
2007-10-02 05:21:20 · answer #1 · answered by mariner31 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The reason why they get kicked out for petty stuff is because their higher ups do not like them. I've heard about other military members doing some pretty dumb stuff, I mean things that should have gotten them jail time, all they get is an NJP or a slap on the wrist. Meanwhile, the guy that the NCOs hate, who got the time wrong for PT, is declared MIA and gets NJPd or whatever. It's ridiculous. Like high school. Maybe thats not the way it is everywhere, but here....that's how it is. It pays to kiss *** I guess. If your higher ups like you, they will fight for you. If they dont, you're screwed. Don't step on the toe that's connected to the butt that you're going to have to kiss tomorrow.
2007-10-02 04:30:50 · answer #2 · answered by Brittany 3 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Perhaps not having a draft and having an all volunteer force now requires a higher level of conduct. An all volunteer professional force is required to maintain a certain code of conduct. I however believe the Services have changed the consequences for service members that have conduct outside of what the Military desires. Largely based on what the Nation feels is appropriate behavior for thier military.
2007-10-02 02:13:57 · answer #3 · answered by Destrier 4 · 2⤊ 0⤋
It started back in the 70's, following Vietnam (at least in the Army). I doubt that you'd find a CWO or senior NCO who has more than one NJP in their record, at least in the Army.
2007-10-01 21:48:33 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Chesty pulller retired a BG.
Back in the day the standard was less about being a boy scout than a soldier.
Soldeirs would get in trouble pay the price and move on and up. Not today as you know screw up and you're moved out.
2007-10-01 21:27:44 · answer #5 · answered by Macisbac 2 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Back in the days of the draft the services had to tolerate misconduct.
Today the military is professional and the people in it are expected to be professionals. Getting rid of the 'problem children' allows the leaders to focus on things that win wars.
2007-10-02 02:45:26 · answer #6 · answered by MikeGolf 7 · 1⤊ 1⤋
the military will always try to protect its own
2007-10-01 21:14:11 · answer #7 · answered by Follow The 9 2 · 1⤊ 3⤋