A question for people who believe that they experienced God/s.?

Question

1) How did you do it?
2) How can you be sure that your experience was not a delusion or an illusion?

Thank you very much.

Please number your answers.
Thanks.

Answer 1

Emotions can be confused sometimes with a spiritual experience.

Answer 2

1: I didn't, God did.

2: Having done LSD, Mesc, Peyote and enough other hallucinogenics I am well aware of the kind of hallucinations you can have on drugs. After drugs I got into ZEN, meditation and the rest of the New Age BS. It was interesting and I have had some out of body experiences and remote viewing experiences.

Any reasonably sane person will know the difference between a mirage or hallucination and reality.

If you do not understand I suggest you stop drinking water until dehydration begins to cause hallucinatory experiences.

Once you have experienced dehydration and then get some fluids in you you will have no doubt about the difference between a hallucination and reality.

People may believe in them when they first seen a mirage or hallucination, but, the difference between reality and a hallucination is actually pretty obvious as anyone who has experienced a drug or condition (thirst) induced hallucination can attest to.

Answer 3

1) I have not experienced a personal God, though I believe the experience is current amongst monks and those who have practiced meditations for years. I'll say more on this question later based on my personal experience.

2) My understanding is that those who have this experience have no doubt because it is even more real than any other experience that you may have through the senses. They experience God and its connection with everything. It makes complete sense. It is completely real.

I know what you have in mind, but the same can be said about modern science. How do you know that the basic evidence behind modern scientific theories is valid? Is it because you trust all the books and all the people that collected the data? Is it because many reported again and again the same type of consistent data? The same type of evidence is available for the experience of the divine and in addition you may have your own personal direct experience.

However, a step is needed before the experience of the personal God can be appreciated. I think like you that many may have had the delusion to have experienced the personal God. The required first step is simply to align your mind with the laws of nature. The laws of nature can be seen as the non personal God, but let's forget about terminology here. A greater alignment with the laws of nature can be verified scientifically.

This brings me back to 1)

1) To achieve this one can practice Transcendental Meditation. I have done this, and can speak personally about it. This is the most efficient technique to my knowledge. Go to Google Scholar http://scholar.google.com/ to search on it. The use of Google scholar will help you to have results from established scientific institutions only. Otherwise, you will also get fanatic web sites. etc.

Now back to 2)

2) The effects can be measured. There are plenty of research on the benefits of meditation. So this is already totally real and scientific. You can see the effects on the performance of the individual, which is associated with a greater coherence in the brain that is measurable. At the beginning, the global brain coherence is only maintained in meditation, but after a while it is maintained even while the person does not meditate. It is a very natural experience. The attention is always toward the object of the senses, you care about what is important as usual, etc. The difference is that the inner self is awake. It is not intellectual. It is not that you have to think about it. The content of your thoughts is directed toward whatever need your attention as usual. Only the quality of your thoughts is changing to reflect the fact that you are not your thoughts, that you are not the objects of the senses, etc. You are pure intelligence or pure awareness. You don't have to think that you are pure intelligence or pure awareness. It just is like that. You become more efficient, your thoughts are stronger, you are more in alignment with nature because you don't have the delusion of identifying ourself with the objects of the senses. It is an experience. It is the most natural experience. It is so natural that many, when they have the experience for the first time, feel like it always has been like that but they didn't realize it. No word can really explain it. However, it is also scientific. This corresponds to a specific state of the brain. This greater potential mental, this better health, the global brain coherence, etc. are all measurable scientifically. It is not a belief. It is real even from an objective scientific viewpoint.

The above is not the experience of the personal God. You must have this state of awareness before you can go to the next step. This is a required basis. You need that foundation. Otherwise, the experience of God has no basis. With that basis, you progressively appreciate subtler aspects of life. It is all real. It is always connected with real practical life. It is a natural progression. The effects can be measured. This is the practical way people can develop the experience of God.

Answer 4

God has never been something I saw, however I have seen the afterlife...

Once I fell off a cliff... well I sort of jumped but I had no choice. I cracked my head pretty hard at the bottom.

I think I died and went to hell... it was a boiling pit of blood, people were screaming in it all around me. Any who tried to surface or reach out would get slashed by flying serpents that skimmed the surface. This of course could have been a hallucination... I felt I deserved to be there for what I had done in my life, so I sunk to the bottom, resigned to my fate. There I saw a baby that took my hand and said, "wake up, I still need you!"

When I awoke, I was in that gulch with blood all over my face, matted in my hair and my head damaged. I couldn't walk... I had to drag myself out, one foot at a time and the pain was terrible as my shock wore off.

I prayed to God for the strength to make it out alive and swore to do all he asked of me if I survived... somehow I made it back up to the road and was delivered to the hospital by some motorists.

I believe it was a miracle!

Does this mean God exists? Make your own judgment, I'm not a Missionary.

Answer 5

1)It took an entire life of searching. Something most others have not committed. Years of studying, walking around asking questions, meditating for the truth.
2)Because I have had real delusions and you know the difference.

Answer 6

1) i started worshiping Him, then next thing you know i was laughing and crying at the same time. i fell to my knees and started doing like a bowing motion. you just dont know what to do or what your gonna do when His presence fall on you. but it is so amazing!! (if this is what you mean)

2) cause i was in the middle of worshiping Him when i felt His presence. i had never done that before.

when you get into God's presence you KNOW its God! you feel His power!

EDIT: you can thumb me down but that doesnt take the experience away! if you could grasp that kind of experience you would actually be jealous, wishing you could have felt Him too.

Answer 7

1) I used rope and mirrors and a sound recorder (lol)

2) not sure after the first set of shrooms with Mary Jane if that bush was really talking to us or just burning because we set it on fire?

Just joking with you. Im more interested in seeing the answers than anything. I can't really answer it for me it is not that way. I experience it only by living and breathing the Earth I have no preconceptions and am open to all views and options.

Answer 8

1) Not sure "how" - it's a "GOD-thing" as they say.

2) Do you know the difference between a dream and real life? same thing.

Answer 9

1) by choosing to
2) it was a suspension of disbelief - similar to what we do when we go to the movies or read a book. I make no claim that it was "real" in the same sense that I am "really" sitting at a computer typing.

NOTE TO KAYLIN: You have no idea what persecution means, it is quite evident.

Answer 10

It's practically a fact that you have to lower your standards and your abilities to think critically to be receptive to "divine penetration".
Whatever they say, you'll notice that they lower their standarts. they become open the the possibility that a theistic god exists.
That's what faith's all about.
they never think about the issue.
And this lowering of standards is seen as a virtue. As if the modern way of thinking is too uptight. As if people from 2000 years ago knew more. As if everybody was a wise sage who was in touch the fabric of reality.

It's diturbing what religion and faith does to the human mind.