Don't you realize where the New Testament came from?

Question

Numerous false claims have prompted me to post this question.
The 27 books of he New Testament were decided upon by the Catholic Church over 1,600 years ago.
At the Councils of Hippo and Carthage, held in the 390's AD, the bishops created the list New Testament books which is the same as the NT list today. Previous to that, Pope Damasus (366-384) in his Decree, listed the books of today's canon, and this pope later ratified the decisions of the Councils.
So, for those of you who think that Constatine corrupted the Church as early as 325 AD, how can you possibly accept your New Testaments as the Word of God? How could you follow the lead of a "corrupted" church? Quite a connundrum, ain't it?

Oh, and if you say the Holy Spirit protected the list for Christians, then you have just quoted Catholic dogma, because WE say the Holy Spirit protects the decions of councils that are chaired by the pope - hence their Infallibility.

So what sayest thou? This should be VERY interesting

Answer 1

If the skeptics don't believe you, Catholic Crusader, perhaps they will believe Wikipedia:

In his Easter letter of 367, Athanasius, Bishop of Alexandria, gave a list of exactly the same books as what would become the New Testament canon,[8] and he used the word "canonized" (kanonizomena) in regards to them.[9] The African Synod of Hippo, in 393, approved the New Testament, as it stands today, together with the Septuagint books, a decision that was repeated by Councils of Carthage in 397 and 419. These councils were under the authority of St. Augustine, who regarded the canon as already closed.[10] Pope Damasus I's Council of Rome in 382, if the Decretum Gelasianum is correctly associated with it, issued a biblical canon identical to that mentioned above,[11] or if not the list is at least a sixth century compilation.[12] Likewise, Damasus's commissioning of the Latin Vulgate edition of the Bible, c. 383, was instrumental in the fixation of the canon in the West.[13] In 405, Pope Innocent I sent a list of the sacred books to a Gallic bishop, Exsuperius of Toulouse. When these bishops and councils spoke on the matter, however, they were not defining something new, but instead "were ratifying what had already become the mind of the Church."[14] Thus, from the fourth century, there existed unanimity in the West concerning the New Testament canon (as it is today),[15] and by the fifth century the East, with a few exceptions, had come to accept the Book of Revelation and thus had come into harmony on the matter of the canon.[16]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_canon

Protestants, put some ice on it. The Catholic Church that you ridicule as an invention of Emperor Constantine selected the books of the New Testament.

Furthermore, Protestants misread the scriptures selected by the Church to deride the Church as unscriptural. In fact, Protestants fail to understand difficult texts like John 3:5 ("Jesus answered, 'I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit.'") because they try to read them without the interpretive context found in other Catholic writings from the early centuries of Christianity.

How's this for a basis for ecumenism: Let's all throw out all the doctrines proposed after 500 AD and rally around the revelations of original Christianity? That would leave 99% of Catholic doctrine intact, and repeal the errors of sola scriptura, the atomic blast that shattered Christendom.

Cheers,
Bruce

Answer 2

"Ignorance of the Scriptures is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome (4th century A.D.)

Does the Bible state It is the sole or final authority of Christianity? No. Neither this statement nor anything even close to it appears anywhere in the New Testament. In fact, Christ said that the Church is to resolve disputes among Christians, not Scripture (Matthew 18:17).

What did Martin Luther, the Protestant Reformer, state about the Bible? In his "Commentary On St. John," he stated the following: "We are compelled to concede to the Papists that they have the Word of God, that we have received It from them, and that without them we should have no knowledge of It at all." Regardless of what non-Catholic Christians may think or say, according to secular, objective historians, the Catholic Church alone preserved Sacred Scripture throughout the persecution of the Roman Empire and during the Dark Ages. All non-Catholic Christian denominations owe the existence of the Bible to the Catholic Church alone. Why did God choose the Catholic Church to preserve Scripture if It is not His Church?

"When we refer them to that tradition which originates from the Apostles, which is preserved by means of the succession of presbyters in the churches, they object to Tradition, saying that they themselves are wiser not merely than the presbyters, but than even the Apostles." St. Irenaeus ("Against All Heresies," c. 180 A.D.)

Answer 3

The New Testament exists widely, so much so, that neither the councils nor Constantine could corrupt them. They are too widely spead and learned, that no power on earth has the power to corrupt them. The Holy Spirit has made this so.

Answer 4

expensive chum, Jesus is, God. he's the 2d non secular man or woman interior the Godhead. God is a Triune God. God the daddy, Jehovah. God the Son, Jesus (Savior and Lord) and God the Holy Spirit all potential. The God of the old testomony is the "comparable" God of the recent testomony. God is a God of love and wrath. study Revelation. whilst Jesus returns, it will be a ...unfavorable day. "the recent is the old hid; the old is the recent revealed." --Augustine reward,

Answer 5

I asked a very similar question a long time ago without an adequate answer. All the fundamentalists who condemn the catholics for not being "true christians" just seemed to take an angry tone without really answering.

Answer 6

I am a Christian from the Catholic Church, but I do not promote bashing of other religion, let alone make a comparison. If you would follow the history of each denomination, they sprung from a different denomination, each springing like mushrooms because members do not get along, or have different opinions as to how the readings were interpreted or should be interpreted. God didn't ask us to be faithful to our religion, or our group , or our friend, or our leader, He asked us to be faithful to Him as He is to us.

We are Christians, we are followers of Christ, the Begotten Son of the Father.

We believe in our One True God. That He sent forth His Son by the power of the Holy Spirit, to dwell in this land, to teach and spread His words, to live an exemplary life, to die on the cross, to shed water and blood to save all of humankind.

Similarly to Jesus' disciples we are called to spread His words. Let us join together and spread God's word. not our own opinion.

Answer 7

God Is Preserver of His Word.

Answer 8

Old or New a testament is not God's words but the words of others who claim that it is. Their will always be sufficient cause to dispute those claims until you ask HIM and receive a direct response. If you don't believe that can happen, you will never hear the response. Ever notice that children ask their parents repeatedly when they've been told clearly, "NO!"Children refuse to hear what they don't care to hear but give them the response they're seeking and they respond immediately to it. Are you a child unable to hear answers that don't serve your purpose?

Answer 9

I say God was responsible for what ended up in the Bible not man. Sure the Catholic church was used but does that make them God's chosen? The answer is no. I know you are going to find this offensive so I apologize in advance but it is the most extreme example I can find. In the Old Testament Balaam's a.ss was used to warn him about the angel of God. Does that give his a.ss some claim to being chosen of God?

Answer 10

i personally agree with your statement and add :

God only said ten things and they were so important he put them in stone.

these are the laws i live by.