Is the Shroud of Turin real or a hoax?

Question

I think it's real. I also think its more of a question of faith than anything else. What are your views?

Answer 1

I use to believe it was fake. Even stood on the shroud I hate to say as my platform to bash down religion when I was an atheist.

But after time, intelligence and studies, I have realized I was the fool. The shroud is real. The pollen and minute samples easily proves its authentic. And that is just 1 point of many.

Answer 2

I have done extensive research on this over the years. It has a strong evidence of being real.
1. It is the most likely object to keep since it was left neatly piled up by the Lord himself after he arose.
2. It would not be saved if the person dying was still in it.
3.It shows marks of a person who has nails in the wrist which is more likely the right place to put them since the hands would pull out.
4. The eyes were covered with Roman coins which are visible and can be seen as from that period.
5. There is pollan from flowers which date it.
6.The cloth is woven from Israel with that period and also signs of a rich person which it would be.
7. The form would be taken in an odd shape if wrapped around a person and this shows that. It was not easy for an artist to show this type of thing.
8. There is no sign of paint.
I believe it is real and I am not at all Catholic. If real they may be the keepers but it belongs to all Christians in another sense.
I wanted to add to this since I read comments by others.
They were coming to put the spices on the body when they found the risen Lord. It had none at the time then.
Also there was a fake shroud but I never heard that anyone varified this one as fake. There were several.

Answer 3

It is a hoax because if you wrapped a body in sheets the pattern would not come out clear and exact as this one has.And why was the offer to carbon date for age turned down.
And how did this type of cloth last these many years as the body fluids would have made it rot years ago before it was found.And the cloth resembles modern weave rather than ancient weave.
I think it was made to try and persuade people that religion is for real and they think by doing this it is actual physical proof. But fails when put to science And only gives the be livers some thing to grasp on to

Answer 4

Pope Clement VII knew by 1389 that it was a fake and forbid it to be called the shroud of Jesus. An artist confessed to some bishops and canons of the church that he made it for Geoffroy de Charnay who used it in faith healing scams. Canon Ulysse Chevalier proved that it is a fake and said it violates virtues the Bible commends, i.e. truth and justice. 3 different labs did Carbon-14 tests on it and found it dates from the 14th century. The Bishop of Turin pronounce it a fake in 1989. Liars have tried to discredit anyone who disproves their beliefs, but the defenses of this shroud make no sense. Read the Bible and see it says in John that Jesus was buried with separate cloths on head and body and that the latter was filled with spices. There is much proof that the Shroud of Turin was not Jesus', so it is not a matter of faith, unless it is OK to believe blindly in things the Bible itself disproves and a pope and many bishops and canons for 700 years have known was fake

Answer 5

It has been subjected to various scientific tests to show authenticity from time period. So it is very likely the burial shroud of a person from around the time of the death of Jesus Chirist.

But is it him?

I do not know specificity f what is said by the people who handed it down through the ages.

We have to take a lot of faith ... the contents of the Bible & other holy books for example. We cannot go ask the people who wrote the stuff 2,000 years ago if the various church leaders over the years correctly translated their divinely inspired writings. But the Dead Sea Scrolls are relevant to that context.

Answer 6

Sorry, faith does not change facts, for example I have faith that the bone I dug up in my back yard is a fossil, but in reality it's just a chicken bone. My faith is real but it hasn't changed anything.

The research into the shroud shows that it's not that old and is probably a fake, possibly made in the Holy Land during the crusades. The artwork (if it is artwork) is very similar to paintings done around the 14th century and don't map to an actual projection of a human body.

Answer 7

The contamination from the fire make carbon-dating the shroud difficult if not totally unreliable. The botanical evidence lead me to believe that the shroud did spend at least some time in the area of Israel.

But my gut instinct is that it is a forgery. How? I don't know.

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Answer 9

I think it is a physically real object. I think it is an artifact of a shroud over a human body.

The shroud of Jesus though? Doubtful. Makes for a good story though.

Answer 10

I personally think it's a hoax. For the simple fact that none of the material on the shroud has been determined to be blood...of any age. If it is the death shroud of christ, it should have blood on it. It doesn't...therefore....