Many years ago, before science enabled us to explain many different things............?

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people looked at almost everything in wonderment and awe, and proclaimed how awesome God is to have created all this for us.
Science comes along and has been able to "explain" all these wonders for us so that they are not wonders at all anymore, but rather the logical order of things.
Science also says God doesn't exist because science can't prove He exists, or perhaps it is beyond our ability to prove He exists, so God is pushed out of the picture.

My observation is: When God gives us things we can explain, we say it's the natural order of things. When God gives us things we can't explain, from the everyday perplexities of life to His teachings, etc., we then question His existence.

My question to those who disbelieve: As to the existence of God, what would need to occur for you to believe that He does exist?

All you believers, feel free to chime in as well!

Thanks Eric. I am referring to the Christian God.
But you could easily insert any other supreme into the question, for the sake of argument. Good point.

Answer 1

I appreciate your sincerity and the fact that you didn't pack this with insults and strawman arguments.

I do take issue with your suggestion that scientific explanations reduce the "wonders" - it's really quite the opposite, though you now have to make a serious effort at understanding in order to sense the wonder in the world.

As for your question, if a God were to make an appearance, I would believe in his existence. It'd be quite simple for him to convince me - a few large-scale magical feats while telling me things I didn't already know. I could give a specific example, but I don't want it to sound like there's only one thing that would convince me. In fact there are millions of different ways that a real god could convince me that he was real.

None of those things ever actually occur, though - we don't get any sign whatsoever of a god's existence.

Answer 2

I just watched a program where the speaker noted that 90 percent of all the inventions and scientific progress in the last 2000 years have come about by people who believed in God and read the Bible and were inspired to create and explain many scientific processes for mankind. In the past several centuries or more, especially after the Dark Ages and in the Age of Enlightenment, scientific inquiry has mostly been inspired and advanced by people who wanted to learn and understand how God created this world and the heavens....even against the wishes of the Church at that time which had their own false doctrines and ideas. He is the ultimate scientist and posesses all the knowledge in the universe for us to learn and understand. Darwin and his sympathizers had no understanding of the huge complexity of even a simple bacteria or he and others would not have imagined it could originate in a natural process.
The more science learns about the complexity of life and the impossibility of it starting on it's own, the closer we are to finally accepting the fact that God must have created everything....there is no other explanation.

Answer 3

You know there's room under your avatar to put any information you want. It would be great, because that and your Q&A's would give more context to all your questions. I can't help but add here that, if you look up Emotional Intelligence, it has many branches, but for the individual, as I applied it, every day and everywhere I looked, I had the awe of a small child and still hope to always have it. There is so much we miss. It's really wonderful to see wonderment with every turn of the head. I guess that's what it means to become as little children. It gets you in touch with faith also. I think that experience would about do it for anyone, even us little pengys.

Answer 4

First off, science has neither claimed to have all the answers, NOR has it claimed that there is no god. Science is the SEARCH for answers and not the answer itself. Man has always felt the need to be able to explain everything. Religion was born of this need inasmuch as it provides those explanations of the unknown with the all encompassing supernatual answer. Science acknowledges the holes in what we know and does not attempt to fill them in unless they test the explanation first.

Answer 5

A lot of people have to hit rock bottom and have only one way but to look upwards for a reaching hand to finally realize God is real, and there to lift you up. And when you experience the indwelling of His Holy Spirit in you, you no longer try to disprove His existence...you accept Him in faith, for you can truly feel it. This isn't my experience, but many that have related their stories of 'finding God'. I was lucky enough to know the existence of God my whole life. I've always craved God's word, and though I may slip and fall into the traps of the world, I know He has always been there to help me back up. And none of us are 'superior' in God's eyes; intelligence, wealth, race....none matter to God. He just wants you to accept Him as Lord and savior so He can give you the ultimate gift...eternal life.

Answer 6

First in my opinion science has not taken away the wonder and awe but only increased it! I mean when we learn about cell structures and the structures within cell structures that is just pretty AWESOME to me and that is only available through science.

Also, Science is neutral in regards to a belief in a god. Science does not claim that god exists or does not exist. Science in many ways was started with the notion that God does in fact exist and he created everything in an orderly fashion and therefore we could discover.

Answer 7

What many who do not believe do not know is the conflict with in Darwin. The struggle to explain as he knew God had his hand in all of this and could not explain what he thought.

This in and of itself is the core of why God gives as free will to chose and to struggle. But to never give up and cave in to the many things put before us so we never lose faith and with this hope that one day we will not need to ask why!

Darwin fought with this and did not give up his faith and many who hold him up leave this fact out of the equation.

Answer 8

We had superstitious answers for things we didn't know, and now we have more real answers and more of an understanding of what we don't know. What's the problem? Are you really advocating that we go back to saying that Thor forges lightning in volcanos?

As for convincing me, who knows? I do know that you've convinced me that you exist, and you are nowhere near being a god. I would think that a god would be at least as capable as you in that regard. If your god supposedly knows everything, he knows exactly what would be convincing to me and what would not be convincing to me. Obviously, if he exists, he has chosen to only show me things that leave me unconvinced.

Answer 9

He has to appear to the entire world not to one or three people and for them to say god is real. If god is real I want him to appear and do something that defies the laws of physics.
Such as lifting a mountain in a human form.
Secondly which god are you talking about? Zeus? Poseidon?

And if you say they are not real, then how do you know that Zeus and Poseidon are not real?

Answer 10

The very tinyest scrap of evidence , not the imagination of someone "god" speaks to. Evidence , something tangible , anything however small or weak.
Notice , I never mentioned proof , because proof of "god" in impossible .
Please don't say to look around at all the beauty of the world as proof of "god" , unless you also mention all of the miseries , poverty ,starvation , etc .