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So Mo named and define the truth about ancient society? That everyone was a Muslim but were not aware of it until he came along and verbalized it?
Following this logic, is it good to revert back to ancient societal ways just because they were the first to exist? Shouldn't mankind progress and move on? I mean each used to hunt and gather their own food but I don't think that's practical for society today.
Muslims, just because ancient society was Muslims ( and I'm not saying they were, you are), does that automatically make it true and the right way to base society on today, just because it is ancient or is there another basis for your reasoning?

And if the first societies were Muslims, what made them discard this and become Jews and Christians?

2007-09-30 23:39:01 · 16 answers · asked by Prof Fruitcake 6 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Your entire post is based on the fallacy: Muslims created the first civilizations.

1. The term "Muslim" refers to the adherents of the religion of Islam.

2. Muslim (Islam) history begins began in Arabia with Muhammad's first recitations of the Qur'an in the 7th century.

3. Before the coming of Islam most Arabic people followed a polytheistic religion, worshiping deities such as: Hubal, Wadd, Allāt, Manat, and Uzza.

On to the first *known* civilization:

The earliest known civilization is Sumer, around 3500-2334 BC. The dates used, is the point when Sumer manifested all the features needed to qualify fully as a civilization.

As for religion: They were a polytheistic or henotheistic society.

As a note: Proto-civilizations existed before Sumer. So far, Sumer was the first to manifest all the features needed to qualify fully as a civilization. Future Archaeological findings could change this at any time.

2007-10-01 00:17:33 · answer #1 · answered by Infernal Disaster 7 · 1 0

You have some good and interesting questions here. I'll try to answer as many of them as I can. Every human being on Earth, when they're born, are Muslim, because it's part of human nature to want to understand things. It's because the society around them influenced them that they changed.

There are believers and Muslims. Both follow the religion of Islam. Believers could be Muslims, Jews, or even Christians. I think before Islam was probably established by Prophet Muhammad, there was only the sense of belief and believers, but not Muslims.

For one thing, Islam was established and it guides mankind throughout time, not just that ancient time. Even in an advanced time that we are in now, Islam is still suitable for it... umm... More than suitable I would say. As for other religions, well... I won't get into that.

Stories of the Prophets show that their people at first followed what generations before them did, and that was wrong. Mankind can progress and move on with Islam.

Muslims of today are various and numerous. I'd say most of them aren't as pious as those at the time of Prophet Muhammad and the first four viceroys. People are born Muslim, while others convert to Islam, for numerous reasons.

As for your last question... simple put is Satan who misled them. Their hearts and souls became corrupt, and so they drifted away from Islam. Go ahead and put thumbs-down! Hope I helped.

2007-09-30 23:51:52 · answer #2 · answered by Green Phantom 5 · 2 1

"The first civilizations in history were really Muslim" - total rubbish. civilization had been around for 12,000 years or so before ever anything Muslim was even though up. Indeed Islam is one of the youngest religious myths invented.

As for moving on - lets just dump all the myths except as historical curiosities and get on with life.

2007-10-01 00:21:21 · answer #3 · answered by Freethinking Liberal 7 · 1 0

Dear Brother

Do you Believe that the father of All Human beings was Adam peace be on him and we are all his children?

Adam was the First Human Being made by God Almighty Himself, Adam Has seen God Himself, So will Adam not have the right Religion of God to be practiced by him and his progeny?

So the Religion of all the Holy Prophets sent by One and Only One God Almighty has to be One and the Same Religion by Logic.

We Muslims Believe the Religion of Adam, Noah, Abraham, Lot, David, Moses, Jesus untill the Last Prophet Muhammad Peace be on all of them was the Religion of Islam means peace and Submission to One and Only God the Creator of Universe and Its Sustainer.

The people later named Judaism and Christianity after their Prophets passed away. When all the Three Holy Prophets are From the Lineage of Prophet Abraham Peace be on all of them, Tell me what was the Religion of Prophet Abraham?

When all the Holy Prophets are from the Same God How can be different Religions as though there different Gods.

So One God Almighty Many Holy Prophets but the Holy Message and the Holy Religion is the Same and It is Islam.

We Muslims are bound to accept all the prophets and respect them for this reason and never Degrade any of them. If at all one Degrades any of the Prophets He is out of Islam.

I think You got a Satisfied Answer to your Question.

May God Almighty Bless you and all of the Humanity Amen.

2007-10-01 07:54:43 · answer #4 · answered by mohammad a 5 · 0 1

Every person born is Muslim. Later the people of the world change themselves to Jew, Christian etc.

Yes, Islam was the religion of Adam.
As the time progressed, the people of world were going off track, i.e they were losing track of what they had been taught. Prophets were sent to guide them but they never listened & the people of the world created their own gods & scriptures. Here comes in picture the Egyptian civilization(Pharoah), the Roman era, Paganism.

The people wrote scriptures according to themselves, what they thought was right. This led to so many caste's & sect's within the religion.

Every civilization/era was different, different books were sent to them defining guidance & rules for that era.

So thereby we have many similarities as well as differences in the Torah, Bible & the holy Quran. But the true word from God is the Holy Quran.

2007-10-01 00:08:10 · answer #5 · answered by shiraz a 3 · 0 2

The answer by Shiraz has just made me laugh out loud. It's hilarious!

How on earth he figures that every person is born a Muslim and then becomes either Christian or Jewish, I don't know. It's got to be one of the craziest ideas I've ever heard.

2007-10-01 00:40:10 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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2016-12-14 04:34:13 · answer #7 · answered by isador 4 · 0 0

By Abraham born 352 years after the flood, will all nations be blessed.
Ishmael was born when Abraham was age 86, 438 years after the flood, he lived 137 years and had a good life and a good size family Gen.25:17; to die 575 years after the flood. Abraham died Gen.25:7,9; 527 years after flood.
Shem the son of Noah [ who died 350 years after the flood Gen.9:28,29 ]; died 502 years after the flood, 13 years after Sarah died, and Abraham died 25 years after shem [ Abraham has 6 sons by Keturah ].
Isaac was born when Abraham was age 100, 452 years after the flood,

Muslim Civilization would began same time as Israelites:

Ishmael was age 89 and Isaac was age 75 when they buried Abraham Gen.25:7,9; Isaac is age 180 when he dies Gen.35:28,29; 632 years after the flood year of 1656.
Isaac had been age 60 when Jacob & Esau, his twins were born, they are ages 120 when Isaac dies, Jacob faces Pharoah at age 130 Gen.47:9,11; at 642 years after the flood. He died in 17 years at 659 years after the flood in Egypt world Empire #1, Gen.47:28; year 2315, and 1751 years before Christ in Rome world Empire #6. Joseph now age 57 had been sold to the Muslims
at age 17 and brought into Egypt, he became governor of Egypt at age 30.
Gen.41:41-46;
At the time of Moses 857 years after flood, the twelve tribes of Israel were 600,000 men Exo.12:37;
Exo.12:40,41; 430 years after Abraham age 75 Gen.12:4; is given the Promised Land covenant, to have a people get the law of the land and the Laws of God and be law enforcement people.
The flood was due to people having no law and order, as Sodom and Gomorrah did not even have 10 people for law and order.
Gal.3:16-18; Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Levi, Kohath, Amram and Aaron with his borther Moses are generations four after Jacob Exo.6:16-23,26; By the time the 40 years ends, 897 years after the flood, these people have the law of the land and laws of God to take into the Promissed Land. Josh.5:6,1012; 898th year, 14th day of New Year 40 years ends.

2007-10-01 00:13:45 · answer #8 · answered by jeni 7 · 0 0

The problem with all these answers is that these people don't understand Islam at all and act like they are experts after hearing a lot of misinformation.

The Qur'an is very clear that God has been sending Prophet's with the same religion and the same teachings since Adam and Eve. That teaching is for man to submitt his will in love and gratitude to the One who created him and provided him with countless blessings. This is the meaning of Islam.

These names like Christianity and Judaism are not even found taught by Moses or Jesus in the present corrupted bible. It is written that it was the people of antioch, turkey who first called paul and his followers Christian. Same goes with Buddhism, Hinduism, etc...

These are names people created to refer back to the point of a place or a person where their specifc message originated.

Dear fruitcake,

Nobody says don't follow the modern times. Truly as a Muslim I amazed about how ridiculously incorrect peoples understanding of Islam is on here.

God's message is to be followed at any time according to the reality which we live in.

2007-09-30 23:50:05 · answer #9 · answered by work4truth 2 · 0 3

Why is it that history doesn't back up these claims? Just like the Catholics who claim the Pope goes back to Peter when Catholocism didn't even start till Constantine. Where is Islam in 1500 years of OT history?

2007-09-30 23:46:18 · answer #10 · answered by oldguy63 7 · 2 1

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