How can anyone think it was a bad or weak stoppage with Taylor vs Pavlik?

Question

The majority of the posts I've read don't share this logic, but the few I've seen makes me ask. I can't see how anyone could think it was a weak stoppage. It was a quick stoppage, yes.....But not weak. It was similar to the stoppage of the recent big UFC fight, Liddell vs Jackson. Jackson only landed 3, maybe 4 flush shots. But Liddell was out after the first and was NOT going to be able to stop #5,6,7,etc. I saw this stoppage very much the same. Taylor was most definitely out. This was one of the first ref stoppages where I saw the fighter that was getting hit actually slump to the ground AFTER the stoppage! Was a good fight, good stoppage, although a little off on the scoring. Watched the fight again and I still don't see where the judges got their scores. But hats off to Taylor for doing more than I thought he would. I still don't think he has what it takes to be a great fighter or a HOF'er, but he definitely is a talented fighter.

Answer 1

the accumulation of punches taken by taylor did it for him.the stinging jabs of pavlik were unstoppable and for most of the latter portion of the fight, taylor was just at the end of those 1,2 combination by pavlik.

pavlik was a complete unknown here in the philippines, but after watching yesterday's match, after he survived round 2,flooring a proud taylor, i became an instant fan!

Answer 2

I've been a fan of Pavlik for over a year now. Right from the first fight I saw on Foxtel here in Australia. I predicted 8 months ago that Kelly would knock out Taylor when they fought. He is learning everytime he steps into the ring.
I know it's strange to say this given what happened in Rnd 2, but his defense has got better with each fight. If you watch the fight again (I've watched it now 4 times), you'll see that once he got his feet back under him after 2 mins of Rnd 3, he was never really troubled by Taylor again.
He caught 95+% of taylors punches on the gloves. In comparison Pavlik was throwing very hard jabs and also the right hand that did the first damage to Taylor in the 7th was the 31st bombing right that Taylor copped.
The longer the fight went on you could see that Taylor was slowing down his side ways movement, then the first time he went straight back in defence he got snotted. Pavlik then showed the amazing killer instinct he has to finish off his opponent by throwing 7 more punches of which 2 uppercuts and a left hook were spot on.
The bottom line was that the ref did Taylor a BIG favour, because if Taylor had some how got to his feet,which I very seriously doubt, Pavlik would have put him into intensive care in the next 30 seconds.

The other thing to come out of the fight was just how pathetic the HBO commentators were in calling the fight. In the 5th, 6th and 7th rounds they were talking like the result was a
faite a compli...that Taylor was dominating Pavlik. They totally failed to see the change that had started to come over the fight. They didn't see Taylor starting to slow down. Nor did they acknowledge how powerful an effect Pavliks double jab was having in setting up Taylor for the straight right opportunity.
When Pavlik decides to move up to Super Middle Weight in a year or 2, having had the time to work on getting his left hand back into a defensive position after the jab, he is going to scare the crap out of all of the fighters at that weight.
Imagine the power in that right hand with an additional 7 pounds of muscle behind that leverage.

Answer 3

Anyone who thinks that Taylor/Pavlik was a bad or weak stoppage is probably the same type of boxing " expert " whose idea of a good fight is watching Hannah Montana argue with her Dad on TV !!--- I agree with virtually everything that you have said. I did predict ( on Yahoo Answers ) a Pavlik TKO in round 7 & I , too, agree that Taylor deserves kudos for a great effort & a great fight beyond what I expected him to do...........Taylor CAUSED the GOOD STOPPAGE by virtue of the fact that instead of hitting the canvas ( like Pavlik did in round 2 ) or " taking a knee " after Pavlik caught Taylor with the first right to the jaw.....Taylor moved to the corner ( which was the WORST possible area that he could have moved to ) where he trapped himself & virtually invited Pavlik to punch him more & to finish him off. Taylor was out of it at the time of the stoppage & was seated/propped on the lower rope as the fight was being stopped. As far as the scoring was concerned....I may be wrong....but I thought that I heard Taylor comment to Merchant after the fight that he ( Taylor ) thought that he was behind on points ? ....I'm not certain about this comment because I usually pay little or no attention to the responses to Merchant's questions because I think that he is a buffoon who usually asks ludicrous questions.....Good fight by 2 good fighters which warrants a title ( not over-the-weight ) rematch !

Answer 4

the people that are calling it a weak stop like marc8989 and others who when typing on a computer act like a tough guy by cursing and calling people names, but in reality, no matter how hard they try to pretend, have never been in a ring, fight, or have not watched very many boxing or mma events, and obviously have no idea what a k.o. is. Taylor didnt drop to his knees and stay their because he was "tired" or for any other reason then he was k.o.'d. Your eyes don't have to be closed for you to be k.o.'d, and anyone who has seen a k.o. in real life or has seen enough events on tv knows the look someone has when they are in "never never land". Without any doubts, Taylor was that guy, was k.o.'d, and even without a ref stop he would not have gotten up within the 10 count anyways so the refs stop doesnt even matter.

Answer 5

Hey Taylor went down to the canvas KO'ed and ref did not have to count him out because Taylor was out on his own.
Pavlik hits hard and could have hurt Taylor unnecessarily. Ref did a good job, There is no doubt Kelly won that fight. fair and square.

Answer 6

No one with a brain can say it was a weak stoppage. Taylor was out! It took him 27 seconds to get up, and that was just to sit in his chair. It took about a minute before he could stand. He might have gotten killed if he could have somehow gotten to his feet against the best finisher in boxing. Pavlik is like the second coming of Joe Louis in that regard. If he hurts you - it's over baby! I love hearing these black racists' feeble attempts at making excuses for Taylor. It is almost as funny as their defense of Mike Vick.

Answer 7

It was a great stoppage. If it wasnt stopped, Pavlik might have done some permanent damage.

Answer 8

I did'nt hear Taylor complaining. Taylor was getting lumped on the whole fight except the 2nd round. It did'nt matter if it was the 7th round or 10th, Taylor was going to lose because you can't fight Pavlik the style he was trying to fight him.

Answer 9

Taylor is the better boxer, though the experts underrated Pavlik's jab. It led to the three shots that sent Jackson to canvas tasting school.

Answer 10

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