Is it better to have a welfare baby that everyone pays for through taxes, or a $250 abortion?

Question

Well prolifers? Do want to pay for 18 years of social services for a welfare kid or just for the abortion?

Keep in mind your positions on Social Security & National Health Care before you answer, because if you think life is precious, you should be for both of those things too.

Answer 1

I think it's an individual woman's choice to make, not mine. If I was in that position, I don't know what I'd do. So I can't tell her what she can or can't do.

Plus, I really shouldn't answer anyway cause I'm pro-choice.

Edit:
Completely agree with Jolly Roger.

Answer 2

So, basically you are asking the following question:

Is it better to:

a) MURDER a person
b) Donate a little money to let a PERSON live

I argue that neither option a) nor b) is a viable option. Rather I argue c)

c) children should be raised by caring families that are supported by each individual in the Christian community.

Evidence:

Against a)

1. Fetus = person (e.g. responds to stimuli and has the
potential to become a full grown human.)

2. People who kill other people, except by self-defense. is a murderer.

3. Therefore, People who kill (abort) fetuses are murderers!

Against b)

1. If handouts to irresponsible people lead to bad consequences, then it should not be continued as a governmental practice.

2. Child welfare is, in most cases, leads to bad consequences. (It is very expensive expensive...people become lazy...people dislike being benevolent... children are not raised to be fruitful citizens).

3. Therefore, child welfare should not be continued as a governmental practice.

So, if a) or b) is not a viable option, then c) by default must be accepted.

As well, it seems that the question is misguided on another point. It is completely coherent for someone to claim that abortion is morally degenerate and also hold that it is not the state's responsibility to care (or give welfare checks) for impoverished families. I would think that it is the Christian view that care for the indigent is the duty of each of the members of the community, not the community itself. Each Christian is asked to care for the impoverished, not the Church and not the state. It is the individuals responsibility. So, welfare should not pay for the child, but loving individuals that will help the family financially...help them get a job...etc.

Thank me later for the solution to your dilemma!

Answer 3

You know, I had this question in my mind earlier.
The "pro-life" president has sworn to veto a bill that would provide funds for kids' healthcare.

I've always said that conservatives only care about children who are unborn. Once they come out of the womb they are on their own.

I am pro-choice. I personally think abortion is rather barbaric and it probably would have been my last choice had I ever been in a situation to make such a choice. (Well, actually I was and chose to have my daughter)
But it still was ***MY*** choice to make. I resent other people making my personal reproductive decisions for me.

To answer your question, I don't think taxpayers should fund abortions. I would prefer to fund programs that provided birth control and education.

That and programs to help people get off welfare and become self-sufficient.

Answer 4

I don't know who your talking to , but I do know that I'd rather pay more money then to see a person. get rid of their child. I do think that women who tend to get pregnant every time they turn around should be fixed. It a case of using the system, and a case of not being responsible. Yes. I thought about it. We live in an area that has a good many people living on Welfare and those that are thrown off are playing the mental health to get on SSI. or a ready free supply of drugs, I do know this as a fact, and I do find it frustrating. Because there are people who really need help and these people are making it impossible for them to get it.

Answer 5

You gotta multiply that 1.31 million* by let's say $5000 per year - jeez; that's only $6.55 billion EVERY YEAR against a ONE OFF $375 million for the abortion.

So at $6.55 billion per year, every year, for 18 years is a lot ($117 billion).
I wonder how many fundies would agree with that if they knew what it was gonna cost them in real dollars.

Being realistic and teaching children how not to get pregnant is sounding like a good idea.
Looks like the 'abstinence only' lessons aren't working.
Do you know that the US has MORE teenage pregnancies** than any other country?
And them being a xian nation and all - makes you wonder just how good that god-in-the-sky stuff really is, innit?

Answer 6

So you idea is that we should kill welfare recipients - and why not retired people, sick people or whoever else costs you some taxes? But if you're so obsessed over murdering babies so that you can allegedly make more money, consider the fact that these babies may later support your social security. Afterall isn't the baby boom generation threatened with social insecurity because they're been murdering their children and their children are murdering their grandchildren?

Answer 7

Social security funds your own retirement (even though the funds are pooled) and there is no National Health care.

I believe in limited welfare but not long term. Unemployment is 26 weeks. Welfare should be limited to 52 weeks maximum.

Answer 8

getting rid of a person because it is inconvenient and only 250 bucks to do it is too costly still in terms of loss of innocent human life.... the price is still too damn high the only thing that is cheap as a result is human life is cheapened

like all so called bargains itis too good to be true... the mother is exposed to breast cancer as a result of the abortion and allot of psychological depression... keeping the baby or putting it up for adoption is a more HER-oic of a woman and a CHOICE which she can look back and live with with a god concience

better to let the baby live

Answer 9

I would hope that a pregnant girl's decision is never forced by such a dilemma. It might indeed be that the taxpaying public would prefer she have the abortion, but it's not up to them. Do you want to go so far as to force her to abort? Or to say that she cannot have public assistance if she carries the baby to term?

What, exactly, are you recommending here? If it is simple acknowledgment that a girl who decides to have an abortion saves the taxpayers a great deal of money, fine. But we really cannot afford to think of human life strictly in terms of money. That way lies totalitarianism.

Answer 10

A human life is a precious thing. It should never be thrown away for a silly reason such as a financial situation. I think the people paying taxes would be more than happy for their money to be going to a cause that would save someones life.

Answer 11

i'm no longer able to have self belief you even went right here. the place do you reside??? for sure no longer in a border state. And applying pretend SOCIAL protection NUMBERS is incorrect!!!!!!!!!! are you able to declare "id theft?????" i do no longer care if it helps unlawful mexicans to "pay taxes." All that does is decrease to rubble the life of an AMERICAN CITIZEN. Come to California and pass to the welfare workplace. Granted there are different races that are there, yet I perfect have self belief there are greater advantageous than a million% like the place you come back from. and that they do wait 3 hours to speak to a SPANISH speaking case worker who at present places them on welfare, WIC and different courses that they should not be entitled to because of the fact that they're unlawful citizens OF THIS usa. and because their "working husbands" have jobs below fake SSNs, or are being paid below the table, they do no longer ought to checklist that income to the DHHS. Come to California and take a seat in a lecture room the place the mexican pupils in no way ought to learn ENGLISH because of the fact our stupid society does no longer require them to. Come to California the place unlawful mexicans have not got drivers licenses yet can get loans to purchase vehicles, acquire coverage and registration with the DMV. ITS ALL incorrect!!! come out right here until now you're making statements such because of the fact the single you have right here. unlawful extraterrestrial beings, whether mexican or in any different case, are appearing unlawful ACTS and you're sitting right here implying that its ok. Please awaken! Step exterior your small, ignorant container.