Who are you to say we all have sinned? Show me where I have sinned?

Question

Did I sin by being born. I reject the notion of original sin. How can a person be responsible for something someone did thousands of years before they were born?

Answer 1

we all sin everyday, all of us in one way or another, just giving mom a dirty look is sinning.

Answer 2

Pride lust greed gluttony and the rest can all be considered sin even to an atheist who is trying to be a good person.,

So if you are perfect congradulations. If you are good thats great. But the Good is the enemy of the best.

Unless your saying that without religion people cannot be good. If you agree that people can be good without religion there would still be a need for a defintion of sin. You can call it what you like.

Answer 3

The first thing that someone should be considering is whether the idea of sin is actually real.

If God is supposed to be perfect how could She have made anything or anyone that wasn't perfect.
Think about it. The idea of sin assumes certain things about God that seem highly unlikely.

First it assumes a God who is too incompetent to organize a simple educational field excursion and figure out a way to get all of the students home safely.

How likely is this that God would not be smart enough to come up with a plan for our salvation that is going to work 100 percent of the time?

It also assumes that God must have created us imperfect if we are sinners.

One might assume that God would be able to create someone perfect each and every time if he chose to. Assuming God is capable of this, then it follows logically that we must be perfect creations if we are actually creations of this perfect God.

Unless of course you are saying that God chose to create us imperfect.

If God created us imperfect then anything that may go wrong is Gods fault, not ours. This seems a bit illogical at best so I think that we need to assume that What God creates would have to be perfect.

If this is the case and Gods creations are perfect, then nothing that we can do could change what God created perfect and make it imperfect unless we think that we are more powerful than God is.

How likely is it that we the creation could be more powerful than the creator. I personally find this idea somewhat amusing, and a bit absurd.

Religion tells us that God is perfect. If this is true then it could hardly be logically for Gods creations to be considered to be anything less than perfect.

If this is the case and we are perfect creations of a perfect God then Nothing that we can ever do could possibly change this perfection that God willed, unless we were so powerful that our choices could override and change the will of God.

How likely is that????

Think about it.

Love and blessings
don

Answer 4

If it helps you feel better, Judaism doesn't have the concept of Original Sin. Judaism has always had that people are born with clean, pure souls directly from the very breath of God, so our souls are actually the very Essence of God.

We believe it is what we do with our thoughts, speech, and actions AFTER we are born that determines whether we blemish our souls or not. That is the purpose of Free Will. It's called personal responsibility.

The idea of Original Sin is a pretty sick, twisted misinterpretation (deliberate or not) by the Church of a story in our Torah. It is NOT the true meaning of the story whatsoever, and is completely irrelevant.

I believe it is actually child abuse to teach children that they are born disgusting filthy rags, worthless, and that there is nothing they can do about it. Imagine saying that about a child's pure, clean soul! This is a horrifying, disgusting thing to teach a child, to lie about his or her soul like that. It teaches the child to not trust his or her own soul!

It also teaches the child that instead of having the very Essence of God within him, he is separated from God because God couldn't stand to be around him in such a filthy state.

This is an absolutely gut-wrenching sickening thing to ever teach a child - or anyone else for that matter. I wonder if these idiots who teach that ever think about how God feels about lying like that about God's very Essence he breaths ito us so lovingly? And how God feels about knowing that we always have God's Essence within us and are never separated, and how these deceitful people lie to their children that they cannot even come close to God because they are so filthy.

Then they make these children believe in a blood-soaked human virgin sacrifice for sin, like the ancient mayans and baal worshippers had! And THIS is how they teach their children they have to go through to get to God -- this is pure idolatry to put anything in front of God to have to go through to get to God. Let alone a virgin human sacrifice for sin.

There is no concept of the Messiah being killed as a virgin human sacrifice for sin in Judaism, there never has been. It doesn't exist. The Messiah in Judaism doesn't die, he isn't born of a virgin and a god, he isn't a god/man, he isn't God at all, he is wholly human, born of a married Jewish woman and man in the usual way.

So just from this alone you can see how twisted the Church turned the Torah upside down and inside out and then mistranslates everything in their for their followers -- Christianity basically incorporated ancient pagan human blood cult religion and rituals into itself. The Original Sin though, I think they came up with that one on their own, most probably for purposes of power and controlling their followers.

Anyway, I hope knowing all this will help you feel better about Original Sin anyway. It's meaningless, and a very perverted thing to teach about the pure clean souls that God breathed into us from God's very Essence.

Source: Torah, Judaism

Answer 5

You have just sinned now by doubting God ;-).
But seriously, God clearly states that all have sinned and come short of the glory of God.
I know you have sinned before and and I know everyone else has sinned before, including me. God says so.


In response to Don H.
You are incorrect. God clearly states we were created imperfect. If you read the Bible you would know that. You shouldn't criticize the Bible when you don't know about it. Also, if you read the Bible you would know WHY God made us imperfect. I suggest you read the Bible before you pass judgment on it.

Kinda ironic isn't it? You atheists claim you are the "sophisticated" or "enlightened" ones of society that use logic while we Christians believe in religion because we rely on blind faith. Right here you were, well, rather absurd and foolish. You attacked the Christian faith and you knew nothing about it. Any fool knows to prepare before they debate someone.

Peace,
Custer

Answer 6

Ec 7:20 "There is not a righteous man on earth who does what is right and never sins."

What about you?

Answer 7

Rom 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

Rom 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

1Jo 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. .

Answer 8

If there is no sin what in the world is guilt good for.

Answer 9

Any thing contrary to the word of God is a sin , A bad thought , swearing ,disobedience ,lust ,greed ,doing drugs ,getting drunk ,stealing , just to name a few . Our sins will send us to hell God will only Judge us . www.fbbc.com

Answer 10

We are part of a fallen race who have all rebelled against God. We are part of that race from the time we are born, and..
Have you ever lied? Stolen? Cheated? Things we do every day, every one of us.
God is perfect and can have no part of sin - so we are separated. But we have reconciliation and the promise of eternal life through Jesus who died in our place.
We need his mercy, grace and love - the God who loves us enough to die in our place.

Answer 11

I don't say that you have sinned; the Holy Bible says that, "For all have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God".
Remember, "Judge not lest ye be judged".