Sola Scriptura?

Question

2Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
2Ti 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

The verses above say that all scripture is given by inspiration of God. That is thoroughly furnishes us unto all good works. This says the scripture is enough for what w need. So why do we need tradition? If tradition is so important why is there not a similar verse for tradition? Can you show me where it says "all tradition of the Catholic church is given by inspiration of God"?

Dillon C - should have expected an ignorant response like that.

franzkarlbecker - Paul says all scripture. The important word here is all. He does not differentiate between old and new. And yes I know the NT was still being written then. But don't you think it was possible that God inspired Paul to write this even before the NT was compleate and knew it would apply to it all?

delsydebothom - it also says "That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works." If scripture is able to make us perfect and furnished for all good works why do we need anything else?

YY4Me - I say the Bible is true because God says it is true. And yes He says it is true in the Bible. However until you are smarter and more powerful than God I think I will continue to take His Word.

Hestia's_Priestess - would you mind telling me which of the Catholic churches traditions those quotes apply to? Exactly which tradition did the apostles mean? The answer is you do not know and neither do the Catholics. How can traditions that started after that be part of that?

Midge - actually I think all the answers to your questions are in the Bible. Stem cell research may not be mentioned. However we know that God values human life. That we are not to murder. Fetal stem cell research requires the destruction of embryos. Thus it requires killing a human. I don't need the pope to tell me it is wrong. The Bible does that for me. The counselor Jesus gave us is the Holy Spirit not the pope. Please show me where it says only the Pope can determine what scripture says. It is not in there.

Midge - My answer to you is the Bible is the authority not a who. It may not deal specifically those issues but that does not mean we cannot use it as a guide on them. When I need to know how God feels about something I do not need to ask a man. I can consult His Word and discover what I need to know. I have the Holy Spirit working in my life. He guides me and shows me and teaches me. He opens the Word and shows me what it says. God is not a respecter of persons. He is not going to speak to the pope and leave me hanging in the wind. Quite frankly I am not impressed with the Pope.

Answer 1

Tradition, religion and sometimes church can come to interfere with our personal relationship with God.

The Bible tells us a lot about the character of God.

Answer 2

Show me in the Scriptures where it deals with Stem Cell Transplants and cloning and all other sorts of things that we need to deal with today and then tell me who is the authority on these things in the World today? Is it every-body's own conscience or did Jesus leave someone in charge to handle all of these things through the Holy Spirit? Now remember the Holy Spirit does not have a gazillion different opinions that are out there in the Protestant realm. For crying out loud there is abortion differences---Euthanasia differences, women priest differences,---homosexual marriage differences---this isn't the work of the Holy Spirit in these so called churches that all profess to have the Holy Spirit in their idea of what Scriptures say.There is alot more to the Spiritual realm than just Scripture. Remember when Jesus says he leaves us the counselor who will lead us to all kinds of revelations and prophecies? These things are not in Scripture yet so how could it be Sola Scriptura

I know the counselor is the Holy Spirit and you still didn't answer my questions

Answer 3

The [first] objective [or formal] principle proclaims the canonical Scriptures, especially the New Testament, to be the only infallible source and rule of faith and practice, and asserts the right of private interpretation of the same, in distinction from the Roman Catholic view, which declares the Bible and tradition to be co-ordinate sources and rule of faith, and makes tradition, especially the decrees of popes and councils, the only legitimate and infallible interpreter of the Bible. In its extreme form Chillingworth expressed this principle of the Reformation in the well-known formula, "The Bible, the whole Bible, and nothing but the Bible, is the religion of Protestants." Protestantism, however, by no means despises or rejects church authority as such, but only subordinates it to, and measures its value by, the Bible, and believes in a progressive interpretation of the Bible through the expanding and deepening consciousness of Christendom. Hence, besides having its own symbols or standards of public doctrine, it retained all the articles of the ancient creeds and a large amount of disciplinary and ritual tradition, and rejected only those doctrines and ceremonies for which no clear warrant was found in the Bible and which seemed to contradict its letter or spirit. The Calvinistic branches of Protestantism went farther in their antagonism to the received traditions than the Lutheran and the Anglican; but all united in rejecting the authority of the pope. [Melanchthon for a while was willing to concede this, but only jure humano, or a limited disciplinary superintendency of the Church], the meritoriousness of good works, indulgences, the worship of the Virgin, saints, and relics, the sacraments (other than baptism and the Eucharist), the dogma of transubstantiation and the Sacrifice of the Mass, purgatory, and prayers for the dead, auricular confession, celibacy of the clergy, the monastic system, and the use of the Latin tongue in public worship, for which the vernacular languages were substituted

Answer 4

First of all Paul says scripture. As such he was referring to the Old Testament that was the only thing considered scripture in his day. You are right when you say that the Catholic church has no grounds for adding tradition however it would be nice to know that the early church tradition was no where near the likeness of the Catholic Traditions of today. They need to see that somehow they got off track from the original message, method and form of the church that Jesus and the apostles established.
Your on the right track with the question.

Answer 5

"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: that the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works."

Agreed. Disagree with Sola Scriptura.

Why? Because Scripture is "profitable" for doctrine, "profitable" of reproof, "profitable" for correction, "profitable" for instruction in righteousness that the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto every good work.

The Protestant position is that the Scriptures are "sufficient" for attaining these ends, not just "profitable". Thus, they are adding a layer of meaning on top of this verse to support their own man-made tradition of Sola Scriptura.

*edit*

"If scripture is able to make us perfect and furnished for all good works why do we need anything else?"

It does not say that. Let me put is this way: The Metroid game manual is useful of backstory, item recognition, and learning how to control the game, that the player may become the perfect Metroid player, thoroughly ready to do all the cool moves.

That doesn't mean the manual is sufficient to learn the backstory, recogize the items, learn the controls, so as to become the perfect Metroid player, thoroughly ready to do all the cool moves. If I'm going to become the perfect player, I have to get the player's guide, learn from those who've already played, and talking to the guy who made the game wouldn't be a bad idea either!

Answer 6

"I commend you because you remember me in everything and maintain the TRADITIONS even as I have delivered them to you" (1 Cor. 11:2). -- emphasis mine

"Follow the pattern of the sound words which you have heard from me, in the faith and love which are in Christ Jesus; guard the truth that has been entrusted to you by the Holy Spirit who dwells within us" (2 Tim. 1:13-14).

"So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the TRADITIONS which you were taught by us, either by word of mouth or by letter." (2 Thess. 2:15) -- emphasis mine

"You, then, my son, be strong in the grace that is in Christ Jesus, and what you have heard from me before many witnesses entrust to faithful men who will be able to teach others also" (2 Tim. 2:1-2).

"First of all you must understand this, that no prophecy of Scripture is a matter of one’s own interpretation, because no prophecy ever came by the impulse of man, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God" (2 Peter 1:20-21).

"‘Though I have much to write to you, I would rather not use paper and ink, but I hope to come to see you and talk with you face to face, so that our joy may be complete" (2 John 12).

Answer 7

Are you saying that you believe that what's in the christian bible is true because the christian bible says it's true? That's circular thinking. You can't use a thing to prove itself.

Answer 8

The gnostic gospels are scripture and the o.t. is not, Be smart, believe Jesus, not Moses.

Answer 9

All Scripture so that means the Hindu books too.


COOL!!!!!!!!!!