self claimed Christiantiy that there is one true God, Jehovah, and then a lot of other'gods' and one of the lesser gods is also a savior and an angel and a man and a son of God?
2007-09-30 08:49:43 · 18 answers · asked by Nina, BaC 7 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
wow. That question is REALLY confused.People who think theTrinity is polytheistic simply don't understand, and I suspect, don't WANT to understand, the meaning of the word. as to all those 'lesser gods', I have no idea what you're talking about. Jesus is one aspect of the Godhead. He is NOT a 'lesser god'.
btw, the Mormon Jesus is the brother of Satan. That is inconsistent with the Jesus of Christianity, and is no more the Jesus of Christianity than my gardener Jesus is!
2007-09-30 08:55:57 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 3⤋
This discussion brings to mind 2 Timothy 4:3 For there will be a period of time when they will not put up with healthful teaching, but,in accord with their own desires, they will accumulate teachers for themselves to have their ears tickled; 4 and they will turn their ears away from the truth, whereas they will be turned aside to false stories. NWT
You defend the trinity because you want to believe that the church you attend has the truth so that you can continue to celebrate Christmas, Easter, birthdays and all the other holidays that had pagan origins with a "clean" conscience. That is why you are so adamant about defending your ridiculous equation. It took me a while to figure that out.
Yes there is one God Almighty, the true god, and his son known as Jesus Christ when he was on earth. Jesus existed in the heavens with his father before that and assumed various capacities according to his father's will.
2007-10-01 19:13:33 · answer #2 · answered by ? 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Trinitarians say it themselves...
the godhead--3 in 1.
Polytheistic.
Get your Bible out,
& show me the name of the holy spirit.
I'll get mine out & show you the name of the one true God .
(in the KJ)
And I can even show the verse where the angel said:
"and you are to call him Jesus",
this angel goes on to explain;
"This child will be great,
and he will be called Son of the Most High God."
Son of God; NOT God Himself.
So, was the angel, lying?
God Himself said that there were other gods.
Does 1 of the 10 commandments ring a bell?
Doesn't mean they are real or true gods.
You believe in the trinity lie;
and yet YOU don't believe that Jesus
Was a perfect reflection of his
God & Father in heaven?
That he was the "masterworker alongside his God & Father
before the founding of the world" ? ~Pr 8:30
The Messiah?
The Savior?
The Prince of Peace?
The Anointed One of God?
That he is a Mighty god?
That he did subject himself to the will of the Father,
that he did take on bodily form?
That he is the only-begotten Son of God?
Pr 8:30; Col 1:15-17; John 17:5, 8:23.
He himself said that he had a prehuman existence,
that he was the unique Son of God,
that he was the Messiah,
the 1 coming whose coming was foretold throughout the Hebrew Scriptures.
Matt 16:15-17; John 3:13, 10:36, 4:25,26;
Luke 24:44-48; Isa 9:6; John 17:3, 20:31, 5:19, 14:28.
Acts 10:34,38:
Peter did not conclude from the miracles that he observed
that Jesus was God
but, rather that
God was "with" Jesus.
compare Matt 16:16,17.
btw~ J's Christian W's do not worship Jesus.
We worship Jehovah~~Deut 6:4:
"...Jehovah our God is one Jehovah."
Which makes ur Q, mute.
2007-10-01 00:32:32 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 2⤋
Generally, neither trinitarian nor nontrinitarian Christianity can be accurately described as "polytheistic". Each branch should perhaps better understand the other. It would seem that any Christian would agree on what the bible says.
Almighty Jehovah ("God the Father") has no peers. Yet, the bible plainly mentions other "gods".
...(1 Corinthians 8:5) there are those who are called “gods,” whether in heaven or on earth
Jesus as "a god": (John 1:1; Isaiah 9:6; John 1:18)
Angels as 'gods': (Psalm 82:1)
Satan as a 'god': (2 Corinthians 4:4)
Human judges as "gods": (Psalm 82:6-8)
It seems obvious that a person is not polytheistic merely because he believes the bible, or because he acknowledges the existence of these other so-called "gods". A person is polytheistic when he WORSHIPS multiple "gods", believing them to be peers. Jehovah is "the one true God" in the sense that He has no rival.
...(Psalm 86:8,10) There is none like you among the gods, O Jehovah... You are God, you alone.
...(Exodus 22:20) One who sacrifices to any gods but Jehovah alone is to be devoted to destruction.
Jehovah's Witnesses are (by far) the largest Christian religion which rejects trinitarianism and the belief that Jesus is equal to Jehovah. For decades, the Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses has recognized the inaccuracy of describing trinitarianism as polytheistic.
Yet, it seems obvious that certain arguments by certain trinitarians have strayed from the official doctrine of "the Trinity". Note this point from their official website:
http://watchtower.ca/e/ti/index.htm?article=article_05.htm
[quote]
’Elohim means, not “persons,” but “gods.” So those who argue that this word implies a Trinity make themselves polytheists, worshipers of more than one God. Why? Because it would mean that there were three gods in the Trinity. But nearly all Trinity supporters reject the view that the Trinity is made up of three separate gods.
[unquote]
By contrast, Jehovah's Witnesses reserve the English word "worship" uniquely for Jehovah God. The bible speaks of honoring Christ Jesus and doing obeisance to him, but only Jehovah the Father merits worshipful "exclusive devotion".
(Exodus 20:2,5) I am Jehovah your God... I Jehovah your God am a God exacting exclusive devotion
(Philippians 2:5,6) Christ Jesus, who, although he was existing in God’s form, gave no consideration to a seizure, namely, that he should be equal to God
Learn more!
http://watchtower.ca/e/ti/index.htm?article=article_05.htm
http://watchtower.ca/e/20050422/
http://watchtower.ca/e/20020515/
http://watchtower.ca/e/rq/index.htm?article=article_03.htm
http://watchtower.ca/e/lmn/index.htm?article=article_04.htm
2007-10-01 03:48:57 · answer #4 · answered by achtung_heiss 7 · 2⤊ 1⤋
How can you say that a triune god-head is anything else but tri-theistic? Christians don't simply argue that their g-d has three different names or attributes, they argue that three separate discrete entities are all the same being.
And to add to the matter, Catholics will pray to, not only god, but also Jesus, Mary, Joseph, St. This and St. That. The whole NT is a conglomeration of fictional writings designed to serve as "proof" that Jesus the son of Joseph (of doubtful existence) was the lJewish messiah. So, pointing to the propagandist gospel of John is hardly proof.
Sound like ancient Greek religion to me.
2007-09-30 08:57:04 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
Theres no such thing as a less god.. Theres only one God.
Many people use 1 John 5:7 as proof of the trinity doctrine, but those words were not found in the early manuscripts.
--==Comma Johanneum==--
The Comma Johanneum is a comma (a short clause) contained in most translations of the First Epistle of John published from 1522 until the latter part of the nineteenth century, owing to the widespread use of the third edition of the Textus Receptus (TR) as the sole source for translation. In translations containing the clause, such as the King James Version, 1 John 5:7–8 reads as follows (with the Comma in bold print):
5:7 "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
5:8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one."
The resulting passage is an explicit reference to the Trinity of Father, Son and Holy Spirit, and for this reason some Christians are resistant to the elimination of the Comma from modern Biblical translations. Nonetheless, nearly all recent translations have removed this clause, as it does not appear in older copies of the Epistle and it is not present in the passage as quoted by any of the early Church Fathers, who would have had plenty of reason to quote it in their Trinitarian debates (for example, with the Arians), had it existed then. Most Churches now agree that the theology contained in the Comma is true, but that the Comma is not an original part of the Epistle of John.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comma_Johanneum
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The trinity is man made doctrine...
--==Christian Soldier==--
No one is calling God a liar, its just that you have the wrong interpretation of the Bible.
2007-09-30 12:30:15 · answer #6 · answered by VMO 4 · 4⤊ 2⤋
From what I comprehend the Ethiopian Church developed different than for the early church interior the Mediterranean section and did no longer grow to be trinitarian. the main Ethiopian Christians have been worn out by using Muslim invasion, the climate of perception have been carried on by using Emperor Halie Selassie I and the Rastafarian faith. My expertise of that's in basic terms academic yet i'm hoping it facilitates on your organization.
2016-10-10 01:38:02 · answer #7 · answered by ? 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word(JESUS), and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one. 1 Jn. 5:7
Christianity is still the worship of ONE God. Just because our peabody brains can't intellectualize it doesn't mean that it's polytheistic. That is how God described himself to us and the supernatural laws don't apply to our physical universe.
JR
How can the trinity be a man made doctrine if ALL SCRIPTURE is inspired by God? (2 Tim. 3:16-17)
Also God can't lie. (Titus 1:2)
It is obvious that the trinity is of divine nature. If you say it's a man made doctrine then you are calling God a liar because you are denying 2 Tim. 3:16-17.
2007-09-30 12:14:42 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 4⤋
Most people have a misconception of what the trinity is. Some people confuse it with tri-theism (the belief in three gods). Other people confuse it with modalism (the belief that the father, son, and holy spirit are the same person).
Johovah's Witnesses (the sect you seem to be describing) rarely ever have a correct understanding of what the Trinity is. Most of their arguments against the trinity are question-begging.
2007-09-30 08:56:00 · answer #9 · answered by Jonathan 7 · 2⤊ 3⤋
2Jo 1:7 "For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
Vs.8 Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward.
PLEASE NOTE THE WORD "BOTH" IN VERSE 9 HERE, BOTH MEANS TWO?
Vs.9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath {both} the Father and the Son.
Vs.10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
Vs.11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds."
THESE SCRITURES SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES. WHAT SO MANY FAIL TO REALIZE IS THAT TO UNDERSTAND GOD YOU HAVE TO THINKS SPIRITUALLY.FORGIVE ME IF THAT SOUNDS RUDE. I DO NOT MEAN TO SOUND THAT AWAY.TRY AND EXPLAIN THESE VERSES ABOUT A HUSBAND AND A WIFE, WITHOUT THINKING SPIRITUAL AND YOU WILL GET MY MEANING.
Mat 19:6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
Mar 10:8 And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh.
2007-09-30 16:19:24 · answer #10 · answered by don_steele54 6 · 2⤊ 1⤋