Ok I got into a heated argument with my girlfriend. We were studying the bible and someone sacraficing unblemished lambs came up. She told me Jesus was an unblemished lamb and covers all the sins for all christians, but since the jews don't believe in him they have no way to cover their sins.
So essentially she told me billions of christians will go to heaven while only 144,000 Jews will make it into heaven. I told her that sounded very unfair and cruel and she told me it wasn't her decision it was God's and she was just telling me what was written in the bible. She said something about it being 144,000 because 12,000 jews from 12 tribes will be admitted.
Is this really true? Is this what many christians truly believe?
2007-09-30 03:51:21 · 9 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Interpretations are like a&&holes, everyones got one!
2007-09-30 04:00:21 · answer #1 · answered by Premaholic 7 · 0⤊ 2⤋
Before Jesus came all believers in the Hebrew faith went to paradise when they died, also called Abraham's bosom. When Jesus died, He went there and preached for 3 days, and then took them all to heav
Paul states in Romans that one day the entire nation of Isreal will be saved, but according to OT prophecies I believe 2/3 of the nation will die before that happens.
The 144,000 are an elite group of Jews who are christians who will evangelize the world during the tribulation.
2007-09-30 04:19:32 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
No, its not true, and your girlfriend needs to do a tad more studying before she misrepresents what the Word of God says.
The 144,000 jews will be used of God in the Great Tribulation to witness to those who have been left behind at the Rapture.
She is correct, they are jews. God will again RESUME His program with the Nation Israel AFTER we, the church that is His body today, are RAPTURED. He will come for us in a secret appearing in the AIR, and there will we be forever with Him.
When He comes back to the EARTH however, it will be to resume the INTERRUPTED program He has with Israel alone, and thats where the 144,000 will come in.
God is saving Jews and Gentiles alike today under the dispensation of the GRACE of God. The Nation Israel has no special status in this age of GRACE, but God says He :"has concluded them all (jew and gentile) in UNBELIEF, so that He might have mercy upon all."
When this age of GRACE comes to an end, God will again deal with the Jews and as many as follow His program for them, will be saved.
2007-09-30 04:00:41 · answer #3 · answered by goinupru 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
revelations mentions 144,000 as the number of the righteous at the Final Resurrection. They are numbered as the TOTAL number of saved souls. Whether the number is intended as literally true, we had better hope not. It is not the number of saved Jews or Christians.
Christians, beware, Jesus' death and Resurrection has not "automatically" saved you. Your life will be your record before G-d at the end time. Jesus' selfless action only enabled you to be saved. Before his death and resurrection we were separated from G-d and paradise.
2007-09-30 03:58:00 · answer #4 · answered by Goethe's Ghostwriter 7 · 1⤊ 2⤋
She is wrong,the 144 thousand is those saint,s who were
not of any sin,were not defiled with women,Preacher,s of
God that were most Holy,since Christ came all who will
call on the name of the lord will be saved.
2007-09-30 04:00:38 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
Harpazo = Rapture
END-TIME BIBLE PROPHECY
The Messiah Lord Jesus said BIRTH PANGS would signal the time of the end (Matthew 24:8). There are NINE birth pangs, they are all PRE-TRIBULATIONAL and the 1st three already occurred.
The first birth pang was worldwide conflict coupled with famines and earthquakes (Matthew 24:7-8). Worldwide conflict was fulfilled in 1914-1918, major famines happened in 1918-1921 and most of the world’s major earthquakes began to occur since 1900.
The second birth pang was the restoration of a Jewish State (Ezekiel 20:33-38; Ezekiel 22:17-22; Ezekiel 36:22-24; Zephaniah 2:1-2). This was fulfilled in 1948.
The third birth pang was Jewish control of the Old City of Jerusalem (Revelation 11:1-2). For the third Jewish Temple (Tribulation Temple) to be rebuilt, Jerusalem needs to be under Jewish control and this was accomplished in the Six Day War in 1967.
The fourth birth pang will be the Ezekiel 38 war. Russia, allied states of Iran, Ethiopia, Somalia, Germany and Armenia will invade Israel. God will miraculously destroy the invading army by earthquake, civil war among the invading soldiers, pestilence, blood, flood, hailstones, fire and brimstone. This will bring a revival in Israel where many Jews will turn to the Lord, and Israel will spend 7 years and 7 months burying the bodies and burning for fuel the military equipment left behind (Ezekiel 39:9-16).
The 5th birth pang will be the development of a one world government (Daniel 7:23-24).
The 6th birth pang will be the splitting of the one world government into 10 kingdoms and this Ten Kingdom Stage will continue until mid-Tribulation (Daniel 7:24).
The 7th birth pang will be the revelation of the Antichrist (II Thessalonians 2:1-3; Daniel 7:24).
The 8th birth pang will be a period of peace and false security that will be shattered by the Tribulation (1 Thessalonians 5:1-3).
The 9th and final birth pang before the Tribulation is the signing of the 7-year covenant between Israel and the Antichrist. THIS EVENT IS WHAT BEGINS THE (7-year) TRIBULATION - NOT THE RAPTURE!
The Rapture of the Church (1 Thessalonians 4:16-18) is also a pre-tribulational event (Luke 21:34-37; 1 Thessalonians 1:9-10; 1 Thessalonians 5:1-10; Revelation 3:10; Revelation 19:6-8). The fact that the Church is not mentioned in any of the Tribulation Scriptures proves the Rapture is pre-tribulational. All raptured Christians will receive glorified bodies (Romans 8:22-23; 1 Corinthians 15:50-54)) and it can happen at any second.
THE FIRST HALF OF THE TRIBULATION (SUPPORTING VERSES IN REVELATION 6-9 AND 17)
The Ministry of 144,000 sealed Jewish believers will bring many throughout the world to accept Christ.
There will be a powerful Ministry of Two Witnesses who will also be anointed Jewish believers.
A one world religious system (Babylon the Harlot) will rule. Under this one world religious system, many who are saved during the Tribulation will suffer persecution and death.
The Political system of the 10 kings of the one world government will continue.
During the first half of the Tribulation there will also be war, worldwide famine, death (1/4 of the world’s population will die), a huge earthquake, a blackout and a meteor shower. 1/3 of earth’s dry surface will be destroyed, 1/3 sea life and salt water will be destroyed, a fallen angel called Wormwood will make 1/3 of earth’s fresh water bitter, 1/3 of earth’s natural light sources will be destroyed, there will be another blackout and demons in the form of “locust-scorpions” will come up out of the abyss led by Abaddon their king and they will inflict harm and pain for five months upon those who are not sealed by God (unbelievers). Another demonic invasion will occur and the demons involved will be led by four fallen angels who will be released from the Euphrates River and this army will kill 1/3 of the earth’s population.
MID-TRIBULATION (SUPPORTING VERSES IN REVELATION 10-14 AND 17)
The Antichrist will war against the 10 kings, and during the war the Antichrist will be killed.
Satan will be cast out of the atmospheric heavens onto earth and will resurrect the Antichrist.
The Antichrist will kill 3 kings (the kings of Syria, Egypt and Mesopotamia) and the 7 other kings will submit to him.
The Antichrist will kill the Two Witnesses in Jerusalem and the wicked people will celebrate this event. Three and a half days afterwards, God will resurrect the Two Witnesses and take them up to Heaven and the people who celebrated will become terrified. The city of Jerusalem where the murder of the Two Witnesses occurred will then suffer an earthquake which will kill 7,000 people.
The False Prophet will receive from Satan the power to perform great miracles and will deceive many. The False Prophet will command all people to worship the Antichrist and have persons create an image to the Antichrist. The False Prophet will use his satanic powers to give it life and the ability to speak. The False Prophet will cause those who refuse to worship the Antichrist and the image to be killed.
The False Prophet will issue his own counterfeit seal known as the Mark of the Beast and it will be placed on all those who surrender to the Antichrist’s authority and accept him as god. Those who refuse to take this mark will not be able to buy or sell. Those who take this mark will spend eternity in the Lake of Fire.
The Antichrist will break the seven-year covenant he made with Israel, cause the sacrifices to stop, sit in the Jewish Temple, declare to the world that he is really God and set up an idol called the Abomination of Desolation in the Temple (Daniel 9:27; Daniel 12:11; Matthew 24:15-16; 11Thessalonians 2:3-4; Revelation 13:11-15).
Through the Antichrist and the False Prophet, Satan will attempt to destroy the Jews once and for all but he will fail because 1/3 of the Jews will succeed in fleeing into the wilderness. These Jews who escape will accept the Lord Jesus as their Saviour during the Tribulation (Zechariah 13:7-9) and while they are in hiding, God will miraculously provide for them (Zechariah 13:8-9; Isaiah 41:17-20). Divine intervention will also destroy the pursuing army.
THE SECOND HALF OF THE TRIBULATION (SUPPORTING VERSES FOUND IN REVELATION 15, 16, 18, 19, 20)
In the second half of the Tribulation, those with the Mark of the Beast will suffer skin sores, the remainder of sea water and fresh water will be destroyed, the sun will cause terrible burns and the wicked will blaspheme God. There will be yet another blackout and persons will suffer gnawing pains.
Babylon will be the center of world economy and political system but Babylon will be swiftly destroyed by fire and become uninhabitable for man.
The Antichrist will locate the Jews who sought refuge in the wilderness and surround them with his armies to wipe them out. The Lord Jesus will then descend from Heaven with His angels and Saints. He will come with great glory riding upon a horse and will destroy the Antichrist, the False Prophet and all of their armies. After this, a loud voice will cry out “It is done!” followed by the greatest earthquake in the earth’s history and hail weighing 120 pounds will fall.
At the end of the Tribulation, there will be another blackout, the stars will fall from the sky and the heavenly bodies will be shaken (Matthew 24:29), the Antichrist and the False Prophet will be thrown into the eternal Lake of Fire and Satan will be cast into the Abyss and bound for 1,000 years.
THE MILLENNIUM
The Lord Jesus will reign over the entire earth during the Millennium. The Jewish and Gentile believers who survive the Tribulation will go on to populate the Millennium. Believers who died before and during the Tribulation and believers who were raptured will be present on earth during the Millennium and because they will have glorified bodies they will not reproduce. All believers will be given special tasks by the Lord Jesus (Revelation 20:4-6). There will be no wars (Isaiah 2:2-4), animals will return to the Edenic state and become vegetarians (Isaiah 11:6-9), people will not labour in vain but eat what they plant and inhabit what they build, there will be renovations in the heavens and earth and there will be righteous and unrighteous children born during the Millennium (Isaiah 65:17-25).
At the end of the Millennium, Satan will be loosed from the Abyss and will deceive and gather the unrighteous for a war against the righteous. This will be his final attempt to destroy the righteous and when the unrighteous of the Millennium surround the good people, God will send fire down from Heaven which will suddenly and massively annihilate all of the wicked people. Satan will then be cast into the Lake of Fire where he will remain in torment for eternity (Revelation 20:7-10).
THE GREAT WHITE THRONE JUDGMENT
The Great White Throne Judgment will be the next main event. The old heavens and earth will be done away with and all will stand before God’s throne to be judged (Revelation 20:11-12). Those whose names are not found written in the Book of Life will be cast into the Lake of Fire which will be their final and eternal abode (Revelation 20:14-15).
THE ETERNAL ORDER (REVELATION 21 AND 22)
Those whose names are found in the Book of Life will enjoy paradise with God forever. The heavens and earth will be made new and the New Jerusalem will come down upon the earth making the earth like Heaven. All curses from the fall will be removed and the earth will be inhabited by the Triune God (The Father, Son and Holy Spirit), all angels and all of the righteous. The seas, moon, night and sun will be done away with and the glory of God will illuminate the earth. The River of Life will flow from God’s throne, the Tree of Life will bear health-giving fruits and leaves and the name of Jesus will be on the foreheads of all of the righteous.
God’s Plan of Salvation for Us
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZkDk1GZ7do
2015-03-27 06:25:46 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
This is not what Christians believe.
The bible indicates 144,000 will go to heaven but most will have life on earth after Armageddon.
2007-09-30 03:57:59 · answer #7 · answered by pestie58 the spider hunter 6 · 0⤊ 3⤋
It doesn't say that in the Bible. She is wrong. The 144,000 are Jews that are preachers. Any Jew can believe in Jesus and be saved. My wife is one of them. There's many, MANY more than 144,000 Jewish people that believe that Jesus, who is God, died on the cross for our sins and rose again, and are saved.
2007-09-30 03:53:53 · answer #8 · answered by CJ 6 · 6⤊ 4⤋
That was the Old Testament.
2007-09-30 03:58:37 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 2⤋