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as you read this you can see that I have articulated alphabetic letters into ordered & structured words & phrases that you recognize as coherent. Is this enough evidence for my existence?

2007-09-29 20:04:56 · 16 answers · asked by Dr. Phil 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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what the creationists seem to miss is that order and structure regularly arise in nature, apparently without divine intervention. at least, they make little or no fuss about stars, snowflakes, sand dunes and suchlike. intelligent design provides no method for saying that some object is designed, and other objects are not - other than the facile "i don't understand how this formed, therefore god did it". many of the examples of so-called intelligent design have been shown to be evolvable, proving that they don't have a reliable method, or any kind of method really.

but fortunately for them, that's not the point of the exercise. the real aim is people who don't know much about science, but have a vague understanding of the prestige accorded to scientific ideas, and therefore prefer to think that their beliefs are endorsed by science. creationism exists only because there is a market for it, it has no scientific value.

2007-09-29 20:15:47 · answer #1 · answered by vorenhutz 7 · 2 1

It demonstrates coherence, not existence. Not all intelligence is coherent, but all coherence is intelligent. For something to exist outside of the senses, it would require periodic interruptions which could not happen left to its own devices. Do we see evidence for God's existence? All we have so far is Jesus. Before that, all we had was David. Before that, all we had was Moses. Before that, all we had was Abraham. Before that, all we had was Noah. Before that, Seth, Abel, and Adam. Point is, if these people were not making up stories, each had a one-to-one experience with the Almighty. How many individuals must we heretically label insane before we give in to the idea that God reveals what He wants, when He wants, to whom He wants, for the reasons He wants? Any claim for random events dictating human evolution, must account for the geologic record. Stated another way, the possibility of rocks forming into the shape of extinct animals purely for our creative musings is as unlikely as the universe being created in under 140 hours.

2007-09-30 03:38:56 · answer #2 · answered by Sidereal Hand 5 · 1 0

It's more than enough, and also not enough. Since the causal connection between post and poster is not in dispute, our visual impression of coherence of your post is unnecessary for us to infer the existence of a poster.

However, consider spam. A spam message often contains quotes from famous literature. The snippets in themselves are highly articulate and sometimes inspiring. By your logic, we would have to agree that spammers are brilliant authors. However, we cannot conclude that the literary quotes in the spam establish the creativity of the spammer. That would be a deception based on crude and uninformed observation. It is possible that the orderly sections of the spam came about by a non-intelligent process of selection from suitable source material, based on pressures that direct the results towards certain well-ordered forms. In fact, this is a sufficient, commonsense, elegant and logical explanation for classical quotes in spam and we have wide evidence that it is correct.

2007-09-30 03:24:56 · answer #3 · answered by Voyager 4 · 2 0

No. Evidence for your existence (at least for you) exists when the alarm goes off in the morning and continues with hunger pangs, the sounds you hear, the sights you see, the smells you notice, etc.

2007-09-30 03:10:39 · answer #4 · answered by swarr2001 5 · 1 0

If you want to understand hoe evolution works pick up a copy of The Selfish Gene by Richard Dawkins. It will change how you think about genetics and evolution.

2007-09-30 03:14:11 · answer #5 · answered by Y!A-FOOL 5 · 0 0

It's evidence that someone that's on a computer typed that question. For me to believe you exist I would have to meet you in person.

2007-09-30 03:10:43 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 3 0

no... i can't actually see 'you', so why should i believe 'you' exist? after all, there could be a host of monkeys trained to press letters on that keyboard as part of some plot made by some evil organisation to make us all believe that the person 'you' claim to be actually exists...

2007-09-30 03:10:22 · answer #7 · answered by killer_ballerina 3 · 2 0

Evidence of Troll.

2007-09-30 03:07:46 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 6 1

let's cut the chase....who created god?

we could also test your existence by tracing which computer the message came from.

2007-09-30 03:09:22 · answer #9 · answered by Pisces 6 · 2 1

& is not part of the alphabet... try again. Next question.

2007-09-30 03:07:49 · answer #10 · answered by Sam 4 · 2 1

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