Those who say God is a fairy tale and make fun of him, why are you afraid to ask Jesus into your heart and say okay Lord if you are real then I know I"ve offended you so please come and live in my heart today and save me! What have you got to lose? Only Pride! That is really the only thing stopping you.........pride in how smart you think you are? Jesus told us to tell you ,,,,,,,,,,that he loves you and died on the cross for you. Take a look around one more time, the flowers, the trees, the birds, the seasons, how unique and different every animal and plant is, how human beings actually do have something called a conscience that makes them cringe at little children being sexually abused............does the animal kingdom protect their young quite the way humans do? No! There is a ruthlessness in the animal world not found in human beings and it's not evoluation. Jesus is coming back......wouldn't you like to be friends with him before he returns and shakes you off your rocker?
2007-09-29
13:34:17
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Okay there is the sisterzeal you know. Let's see if the question remains or who is afraid and has to delete me.
2007-09-29
13:34:49 ·
update #1
I don't mean to rant I just have failed to understand why Atheists want to be in the religion and spirituality section and that has been asked 100's of times and there is no adequate answer. The only answer seems to be, shutting your heart toward God on purpose and asking others to do the same!
2007-09-29
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Sisterzeal,
You do love to ask really difficult questions, don't you? The truth is I have many good reasons for distrusting religion, none of which address any of your points. It's not about pride, that's for sure. One giant-turn off is organized religion's horrible human rights record. I'm repulsed by Christianity much the same way I'm repulsed by the Nazis. I want nothing to do with an organization whose most most fundamental goal is to facilitate the destruction of human civilization. I honestly fear that people who believe in God represent a clear and present danger to the survival of human civilization. I want no part of that.
Christians have been threatening me with burning in Hell for so long now that I'm almost looking forward to it. I think I might understand how condemned Jews might have felt when faced with Hitler's gas chambers. Perhaps I've lost my fear of Hell, much like many Jews may have lost their fear of death, when faced with it day in and day out. When a Christian says I'm going to burn in Hell, I laugh out loud. I literally scoff at them. "Do your worst, Bigot!" is what I think. Clearly, the empty threats have lost their power.
I know you (Sisterzeal) mean well, but you and I don't even live in the same reality. I know that the only objective reality is the physical realm. My mind and the things it perceives are an illusion created by my living brain, based on various inputs from my five senses. You're probably a solipsist and believe your own subjective (perceptual) experiences are real. I suspect your thoughts seem much more real to you, than my thoughts seem to me. You go with your feelings. I've learned the hard way to never trust my feelings because, when I do, I generally make a fool of myself. I trust logic and mathematics and reason because, being objective and not subjective, they're much more reliable. You care more about how what you write feels, the emotion it conveys, so you are free to use flowery speech and say, "Open your heart..." When you say something like that, I can't even hear whatever you say next because my brain is thinking, "What, and let myself bleed to death?" I care much more that my speech is precisely accurate and I can't help it, but I think that way too. Whatever, "opening my heart" might mean, it's not going to happen with Jesus because He just doesn't exist in what I consider objective (physical) reality. The reason I can't conceive of Jesus as a deity is that I cannot accept that such deities actually exist, due to the profound lack of evidence for even one of humanity's thousands of imaginary gods. That's the stumbling block, Sister. Without substantiating evidence I cannot even pretend, or imagine, how it might be if a god actually existed. My brain simply won't work that way. Whatever "opening my heart" means, I obviously can't do it.
We'll speak of this again, I'm sure.
Peace and Love
2007-09-29 14:47:07
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answered by Diogenes 7
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mother alligators tenderly care for their offspring carying them in their mouth and guarding them in a nursery pool. captive macaquc monkeys received their food in a laboratory by pushing a button, but every time they pushed that button one of their fellow monkeys received an electric shock. the macaques gave up pushing the button and starved themselves. doesn't this demonstrate that these monkeys had some kind of empathy with their fellows, a conscience if you will. they were willing to go hungry rather than inflict pain.
humans are not unique, we are fully part of nature. our form our mind and our social sensibilities evolved and we share this with the rest of life on this planet. you seem to have a limited knowledge of the life forms that share this planet with you. you also have a limited view on your fellow humans. i can say that i invite jesus into my heart all that i want , but it would be totally meaningless because basically i cannot believe in the supernatural. though my very religious parents sent me off to sunday school and made sure i went to a faith school. the idea of a god or gods does not make sense even as a child i could see that it was contrary to common sense and my then limited grasp of logic. today the supernatural makes even less sense to me because i have a far greater grasp of logic and the natural world.
i have never seen a theological argument that could not be blown out of the water, because ultimately they rest on metaphysical gibberish and the dexterous and tortuouse readings of holy texts. it is not pride that makes me this way, it's just who i am. i dislike cabbage with a passion and could never under any circumstance learn to love the taste and it's the same with the supernatural. the essence of my being will only allow me to form my philosophy by opening my mind. this does not preclude me from opening my heart, but i cannot do this for the supernatural.
2007-09-29 21:11:21
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answered by Anonymous
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People can open their hearts to God without organized religion. Jesus was a prophet not God and he won't be returning to the earth plane. Everybody will be going in to the spirit world, so your fake friendship with Jesus based on fear will mean nothing as you won't be afforded special privileges once you pass into spirit.
2007-09-29 21:33:06
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answered by xanadu88 5
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Grace(not law) unto you, and peace(not division),
from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
Ug... what you speak of is a heart ATTACK.
Jesus was made under the law: Galatians 4.
Jesus is about division and not peace: Mt 10:34.
What Jesus did is cursed every one: Galatians 3.
Talk about "more the CHILD of hell": Mt 23:15;
Threatening people with your 'vengeful' Jesus.
You should read Numbers 23: Son of man should repent.
You should read Luke 17: He'd come with Noahic destruction
You should read 1Thes 5: saying it brings destruction on you
By THY words THOU art either justified or condemned(lawed)
If any bring another gospel, let him(not you) be accursed by it.
Jesus: made under the law, is only the Saviour of Israel
Christ: is the end of the law, is the Saviour of the world
Ye are not under the law(Jesus), but under grace(Christ)
Pst: Eternal salvation is "THROUGH Jesus-->Christ".
To wit, that God was in "Christ" reconciling the world.
Pst: the world has always been round: globe-all.
Pst: it's not BC, but AD-->only goes one way, to the end;
Where the "you all" notably begins with "you". Selah.
The GRACE of our Lord Jesus-->Christ with you-->all. Amen.
2007-09-29 20:51:33
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answered by Anonymous
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I see once again that certain people ASSUME that Atheists have always been Atheists. My dear some of us WERE religious and realized the lies about it.
I could pick apart all of your comments about why we should let jesus and god into our hearts but I am not, for I know you will not listen.
So I'll sum it up in this way; 1) There are way too many fallacies with religion. 2) There is no creditable proof of gods existence.
2007-09-29 20:39:37
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answered by Imagine No Religion 6
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Some of us prefer reality. Nothing much makes sense until you accept that gods are just the product of someone's imagination. Have you ever noticed how theists spend so much time trying to explain why their god is inevident, or why it looks exactly like everything evolved when really it didn't, or tying themselves up in knots trying to explain away the Adam and Eve story, or trying to explain where morality could come from if there was a god, or why so much evil and suffering exists in the world, or why prayer isn't answered, or why bad things happen to good people, or why their scriptures are a mess of absurdities and atrocities and flaws, or countless other things? All these insuperable problems are resolved with one simple statement of reality:
Gods are imaginary.
2007-09-29 20:36:22
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answered by Anonymous
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Fear has nothing to do with it. Some people who have no belief in christianity and its deity do not believe Jesus the Nazarene to be a real person and others just believe him to be a human being who was made a martyr for the purposes of others many years after his death. Either way, we do not believe humans to be divine and therefore don't worship other human beings.
Personally, for me, pride has nothing to do with it; I've just never believed in christianity and as I explored other religions I do not believe in them either because I see how society created them and used them as a social control; one that is no longer needed.
I have no problem that you wish to believe as you will, that is your right. I do not believe and that is my right. Live and let live.
2007-09-29 20:41:56
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answered by genaddt 7
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Religious fanaticism is evil in it's self, as a catholic we are warned of such insane beliefs, Jesus also warned of those that would preach false prophesy, Jesus was a vary wise "MAN" and that's what we need to remember, as for his coming back, well even the Vatican knows that's not going to happen.
2007-09-29 20:50:54
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answered by Anonymous
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Until the " Spirit " prepares the Heart the mind can't recieve the words, ways, will of God Yshwa. Jesus (God) came down in the form of a man.
He came to die for the sin in the garden of Eden of Adams trying to pass the blame back onto God that it was His fault " He gave Adam that Woman."
Who when tempted with the fruit that would make her as wise as God the Father she ate and gave also to Adam with her who did eat.
Now The Father comes into the Garden in the cool of the evening and asks " Adam where arte thou." in response " Here am I Lord, we were naked so we clothed ourselves. "
The pattern is begining, we are aware of the fact that we have sinned and we are ashamed of this thing that we have done.
Disobiedience before the very face of God who is a " Spirit " and we must worship him in "Spirit and in truth."
Jesus was born with a death sentence because he alone could restore and reconcile man back to God. We are given a choice to believe or not so " As for me and my house we will serve the Lord."
I was lost and now I am found. I DO NOT HAVE TO SIN !!! When the opourtunity comes about to lie, I am given the choice ....If i choose to lie. Then I willingly have chosen the disobedient way and it is ME who must reconcile that with God.
Through prayer and fasting we can reconcile our lives to be in right standing with God. Iy is our choice.
Was Jesus - God the words he spoke gave witness as to who he was represnting " I an the Father are 1."
But he did not claim equality with God there by explains the Father Son relationship.
" I only do as my Father instructs me." " I only do as my Father instructs me."
2007-09-30 09:39:34
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answered by Chaplain Dr. Ken D.D.(hc) 2
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They seem to think that by not choosing they can remain On "Neutral Territory" (you know the gray area), As this doesn't require anything of them, therefore Ignoring their conscience. God's word brings change Conviction to the heart of man. Believeing In nothing requires Nothing !
2007-09-30 02:22:54
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answered by Isabella 6
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