how do you see it working in Gods plan
2007-09-29 13:24:00 · 8 answers · asked by loveChrist 6 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
I believe it's possible for free will to work without mucking up predestination, but it's complicated.
Two specific cases of predestination show how it can work to further God's will. One is the case of Judas Iscariot. SOMEbody had to do it, so Jesus could take his case to court, lose, and die on the cross.
The other case is Pharaoh in the days of Moses. "God hardened his heart" again and again in order to pile on more miracles for the Hebrew people to witness and talk about through many generations.
These two people had their free will revoked. I don't see how either can be judged guilty for the actions they are best remembered by.
2007-09-29 13:47:58 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
There's an obvious example of predestination. Death. No matter what we do during our lives, we know (even if we're not sure what it means to) that we'll die. We also have fairly good evidence that Creation, enmass, shall continue beyond our deaths. -- I can't tell you what God's plan might be, but I can see it unfold everyday, through the simple course of lives lived. In the grand scheme of things; do we really think our personal career choice will have a great impact on Creation? -- Eluding to the idea that predistination does not necessarily imply lack of choice. What choices we have to make are, after all, rather insignificant. Even, in the end, with respect to our individual lives. (Which, again, shall end in death)
2007-09-29 13:34:25 · answer #2 · answered by delsinelu 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Well said, Victor, except that there is predestination. Read Ephesians 1. His chosen are predetermined. Yes, there is free will for us to follow or not, and, yes, He already knows what we will do. But there is predestination.
2007-09-29 13:36:48 · answer #3 · answered by lovinghelpertojoe 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Predestination is the Middle Ages' best attempt at understanding concepts best looked at via quantum theory and an understanding of the spacetime envelope we live in.
2007-09-29 13:31:06 · answer #4 · answered by Michelle C 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Reminds me of the movie final destination..That there is a pattern in life and a certain time and palce we were meant to die. If believing in something that was meant to happen is predestination then yes I say that I can and have experienced this more than once in my lifetime.
2007-09-29 13:36:52 · answer #5 · answered by SMX™ -- Lover Of Hero @};- 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
If we are predestined we have no free will. That is not part of the christian god's plan.
2007-09-29 13:29:00 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
There is no such thing, everybody has freewill, obviously God knows the path you will choose because he is all knowing but you make the choice to believe or not believe, to serve or not to serve. God hates ours sin, but loves the sinner.
2007-09-29 13:32:11 · answer #7 · answered by victor 7707 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
I am up in the air a bit
Science is showing it is real
That is scarey, especially regarding Free Will
If people are PREDESITINED to Homsexuality, Rape, Murder, Robbery they GOD must not foresake them as GOD has NOT given them FREE WILL
2007-09-29 13:37:30 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋