why is that catholic church has always(throughout history) stood by fascists governments?

Question

mussolini in Italy, Franco in Spain, Peron in Argentina...
is it maybe because "birds of a feather...."????

quailman proof forhistory??? just check any history book...it is not as if i needed proof to validate history

sorry to say but maybe the word "fascist" is newer than catholic church but the fascist behaviour has always existed

Answer 1

Symbiosis

Answer 2

That is a question that require a yes and no answer. Since religious bodies and or institutions are ultimately run be humans than the frivolities of human nature are bound to influence their (The religous Institution) relation to governments be it fascist or democratic. This happens or can happen anywhere in the world. The Buddhist kingdom of Tibet was one where the reliigion as well as the state was greatly influenced the ruling classes and basically was a theoracracy run by autocratric ruling classes of the rich as well as the corrupt religous head honchos. As a result both groups were infused with each other and as result both and good and bad results occured. Also we must keep in mind that religous organizations are dependent on donations and as such they have to kiss some A-- if they are to exist. The Catholic Church was caught in the same spot much like Tibet in the centuries past and it was both good and bad. For example: On the good it guided Europe and kept it from dissintgrating into chaos thruogh a terrible period in its history (The dark ages) but at the same time the church was unbelievably corrupt. So in closing, any religous organization can get in position of either supporting or appearing to support fascist governents whether they have a choice or not.

Answer 3

Well you exaggerate. Not every fascist has had the support of the Catholic Church and not every government the Church Supported was Fascist

Also you unfairly use the word "support". "Get along with" might be a better term, for Mussolini. Peron didn't get along well with the Church at all if I recall correctly, but I could be wrong. The Catholics liked Franco because he fought the Popular Front Governement in Spain, and the Popular Front was a Communist Group who was burning Churches, killing priests and nuns, and persecuting the Church. That one you pretty much have to give them... when one side is going through the country hanging your priests and devout lay people, supporting the guys who are fighting the people who are trying to wipe you out is pretty much a given.

The Vatican has often opposed the Left because the Left has a long history of murdering Catholics. Look at the Vendee in the French Revolution, for one example.

I think you also make the mistake of thinking that somehow the Church should support Democracy. Well the Church was around long before Democracy was. The Democracy of Ancient Greece died around 300BC when Philip and Alexander conquered Greece, and except for a few Italian City State Republics, and possibly Holland, it didn't make a comeback till 1776. Even England, the most democratic state in Europe was a Monarchy.
So most of the Churches history has been dealing with monarchs... sometimes they call themselves king, sometimes czar, furher, president for life... same thing, different title. Even today most of the planet is not living in a democracy, but the Church needs to operate in non-democratic countires as well as democratic ones. The Church is worried about where you go after you die, not how you are governed before you die. Democracy is not considered in and of itself a good thing by the Church, nor should it be. Unless someone is actively burning churches (which is pretty common) Political Science is pretty much irrelevant to the Church... a man can be saved or dammed living under a Sultan or a Senate.

Answer 4

The Catholic Church was in a tough position in WW2, notice that Italy itself was a fascist state, it would be virtually impossible for the tiny Vatican to oppose Italian policies. But in fact the Pope at the time is regarded as a good man, in fact the Jews awarded him as an honorable man since he saved many Jews from the Holocaust. Have there been bad Popes? Sure. But your statement that the Catholic church has always supported sinful kings is totally wrong. The Catholic Church was one of the first institutions to decry slavery and Indian genocide, Catholic missionaries were among the first to stand up for the Indians and the blacks, and some missionaries and ministers did not grant absolution to men who committed acts against these people.

In a 1500 year history you would expect an organization to commit many errors and wrongdoings, but to claim that is all they have committed perverts history.

Answer 5

If you are refering to world war II you are wrong. The pope had a letter smuggled into germany and read from every pulpit one sunday condeming nazistic ways. For a while the church did become neutral as a way to protect the christians in those dictated countries as much as possible. And when the popes changed the Catholics couldn't be shut up about how wrong it was. So don't even try to compare the church as being facists.

Answer 6

While Scripture is evidence enough for the marks of Christ's Church, we can see in the writings of Ignatius -- written in the first century, within 67 years of Christ's resurrection, by a close friend and appointee of the Apostle Peter and friend of Polycarp -- that the early Church had a very Catholic interpretation of Scripture:


the Church was Divinely established as a visible society, the salvation of souls is its end, and those who separate themselves from it cut themselves off from God (Epistle to the Philadelphians)
the hierarchy of the Church was instituted by Christ (Epistles to the Philadelphians and the Ephesians)
the threefold character of the hierarchy (Epistle to the Magnesians)
the order of the episcopacy superior by Divine authority to that of the priesthood (Epistles to the Magnesians, Smyraenians, and the Trallians)
the importance of unity of the Church (Epistles to the Trallians, Philadelphians, and the Magnesians)
emphasis on the holiness of the Church (Epistles to the Smyraeans, Ephesians, Magnesians, Trallians, and Romans)

the catholicity of the Church (Letter to the Smyraeans)

the infallibility of the Church (Epistles to the Philadelphians and the Ephesians)
the doctrine of the Eucharist -- i.e., belief in Transsubstantiation or the Real Presence of Christ in Communion (Epistle to the Smyraeans)
the Incarnation (Epistle to the Ephesians)
the supernatural virtue of virgnity (Epistle to Polycarp)
the religious character of matrimony (Epistle to Polycarp)
the value of united prayer (Epistle to the Ephesians)
the primacy of the Chair of Peter (Epistle to the Romans, introduction)
a dencouncing of the (later Protestant) doctrine of private judgement in matters of religion (Epistle to the Philadelphians)1

Answer 7

Assuming that your definition is close to Wiki....(ahem)...

"Fascism is an authoritarian political ideology (generally tied to a mass movement) that considers individual and other societal interests subordinate to the needs of the state. Fascists seek to forge a type of national unity, usually based on (but not limited to) ethnic, cultural, or racial attributes."

Then the reason is obvious.The Catholic Church are the true Nicolaitans which literally means "held under subjection by men". Just change the above to this...

Catholicism is an authoritarian religious ideology that considers individual and other societal interests subordinate to the needs of the church. Catholics seek to forge a type of exclusive religious unity based on the belief that they alone are the true Body of Christ and that salvation is only available through the Catholic Church.

Christ told the Church at Ephesus that he hates the deeds of the Nicolaitans and He also told those of Pergamos that He hates the doctrine of the Nicolaitans.

Christ hates what the RCC has done to Grace and He hates the bondage and fear that they use to hold people in subjection.

agapefromnc

Answer 8

The Catholic Church did not stand by Mussolini.

In addition to Pope Pius XI's 1937 encyclical Mit Brennender Sorge condemning the fascist ideology of racism and totalitarianism, in 1938, a dying 81 year old Pope Pius XI said of the fascism rising in Italy under Mussolini:

"Mark well that in the Catholic Mass, Abraham is our Patriarch and forefather. Anti-Semitism is incompatible with the lofty thought which that fact expresses. It is a movement with which we Christians can have nothing to do. No, no, I say to you it is impossible for a Christian to take part in anti-Semitism. It is inadmissible. Through Christ and in Christ we are the spiritual progeny of Abraham. Spiritually, we are all Semites."

These comments were published worldwide.

With love in Christ.

Answer 9

We haven't. It's not that there aren't bishops and priests who have committed foolish political acts, but they do not speak for the Catholic Church.

The Church is tasked with getting souls to Heaven, not playing at government.

The Church itself is an authoritarian model, which can be hard for me as an American to accept. But then I understand that Christs didn't come to bring democracy.

Answer 10

What is more interesting is that the founder of the protestant movement was Martin Luther.

He heavily influenced Hitler.

Luther wrote many articles about killing all the jews and seizing their possesions