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(Deu 30:11) This commandment, that I command thee this day is not above thee, nor far off from thee:

(Deu 30:12) Nor is it in heaven, that thou shouldst say: Which of us can go up to heaven to bring it unto us, and we may hear and fulfil it in work?

(Deu 30:13) Nor is it beyond the sea: that thou mayst excuse thyself, and say: Which of us can cross the sea, and bring it unto us: that we may hear, and do that which is commanded?

(Deu 30:14) But the word is very nigh unto thee, in thy mouth and in thy heart, that thou mayst do it.

This is the teaching of Moses where Moses tells the people the importance of the law being upon their hearts and how it is essential for God’s plan for humanity. We rarely see reference to these verses because they speak most profoundly against Calvinist predestination that says only some are predestined to salvation and others are predestined to hell. If the law is written on everyone’s heart by God, then for what purpose, except to provide a pathway to eternity in Christ. I heard a preacher in a small Pentecostal Church in the mountains of Kentucky in a town called Pawpaw say that the law on our hearts was like the Rosetta stone allowing us to understand the things of God, that the law contains the very concept of faith and this grace and this Godliness coexists with our inherent sinfulness until we are washed by the blood of the Lamb with our surrender and become pure of heart within God’s law and consequently within His will. We can not be within God’s will without obedience to this imputed law that along with inherited sin intuitively shows us the need for a Savior, Christ Jesus. This is why we have no excuse for our lack of surrender to God because He is not only evident in His creation but He is a part of our very being upon our creation.

How could one understand God’s demands upon us without this law? How can we understand God’s will for us to live within righteousness and justice if not for this law that abides always in our conscience? We often think of God’s law as something without us but in fact it is eternal within our beings, which call to intuition the will of God. This is essential for without the law we can not know God.

Now the law on our hearts should not be confused with those external laws of men. The law written on our hearts is the law that makes us understand righteousness, justice, love and reconciliation. The law in our hearts is not the external law that can result in legalism where the letter of the law is followed at the expense of the spirit of the law. There is no other means by which we know His voice when He speaks to our spirit.

(Heb 8:10) For this is the testament which I will make to the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord: I will give my laws into their mind: and in their heart will I write them. And I will be their God: and they shall be my people.

(Rom 10:6) But the justice which is of faith, speaketh thus: Say not in thy heart: Who shall ascend into heaven? That is to bring Christ down;

(Rom 10:7) Or who shall descend into the deep? That is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.

(Rom 10:8) But what saith the scripture? The word is nigh thee; even in thy mouth and in thy heart. This is the word of faith, which we preach.

(Rom 10:9) For if thou confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in thy heart that God hath raised him up from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

(Col 1:27) To whom God would make known the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles, which is Christ, in you the hope of glory.

In Christ
Fr. Joseph

2007-09-29 12:27:03 · 8 answers · asked by cristoiglesia 7 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

8 answers

No,
Calvinist Double Predestination of divine predeterminism is unbiblical( quoting texts out of context),illogical,
unjust,
unmerciful,
inconsistent with the Love and qualities of God or goodness,
abolishes free will,human responsibility and accountability,
makes God the author, sustainer and ultimate cause and end of evil,

actually damages divine soveriegnty rather than promotes it,
dangerous to moral development since
it demonizes God,
takes away moral agency from man and individual,
and encourages presumption of OSAS"getting way" with unrepented mortal sin for those who convince themselves that they are the Elect and are incapable of rejecting Grace even when in the state of Mortal Sin.

The historical repurcussions have not always been positive since Calvinist Predetemninism encourages contempt for the Unelect and even excuses genocide of them when they get in the way of the ambitions of the Elect and their elitism.

2007-09-29 23:57:24 · answer #1 · answered by James O 7 · 2 0

Yes, as the great Catholic saints and church fathers have said, "God became Man in Jesus Christ so Man may become gods". He reconciled ourselves to Him through Jesus, God in us through Christ. Once you know God is in you, you have His law written upon your heart, and cannot willfully sin any longer. There is still sin, but if intentional, then the truth is not in you. Jesus Christ enlightened me, and God communed intimately with me and placed His law in my heart. His will has been my will ever since, and when I go astray, I pray for rebuking to learn, and this He grants. We are all still learning!

2007-09-29 12:46:23 · answer #2 · answered by Christine S 3 · 0 0

Can Calvin's suppositions about predestination be correct?

My answer would be , no.

The Apostle Peter said in 2Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, ((((not willing that any)))) should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

2007-09-29 12:34:57 · answer #3 · answered by ? 5 · 1 0

Well then, does God really know everything, if he doesn't know your fate? I'm not refering to Calvin, or any human as far as knowing another's fate is concerned. God may very well know you, before you were born. But I don't, and no preacher, or any Christian does either. No witch, prognosticatory, or Judge knows Providence entirely.

Surrender indeed, lay the sword of your intelect at God's feet.

Well then again, is God not all powerful? Can he not change Providence at his own whim? And who are we to know all?

Surrender indeed...

2007-09-29 12:42:30 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I agree,we are not predestined to Heaven or Hell we choose
as to what we will do,it is up to each one to take his place
by God or by Satan.

2007-09-29 12:35:30 · answer #5 · answered by elaine 30705 7 · 0 0

Yea when pigs fly I guess

2007-09-29 12:43:47 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Thanks for the sermon, but you don't need Bible verses to show that predestination is nonsense. You just need common sense.

2007-09-29 12:31:28 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

No!!!

2007-09-29 12:50:22 · answer #8 · answered by Sniper 5 · 0 0

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