Thanks for your question. It was thought provoking and I believe in my reading it brought me spiritual growth.
2 Timothy 2:11-13 NIV
11Here is a trustworthy saying:
If we died with Him,
we will also live with Him;
12if we endure,
we will also reign with Him.
If we disown Him,
He will also disown us;
13if we are faithless,
He will remain faithful,
for He cannot disown Himself.
God is faithful to His children, and although we may suffer great hardships here, He promises that someday we will live eternally with Him. Jesus will stay by our side even when we have endured so much that we seem to have no faith left. We may be faithless at times, but Jesus remains faithful to His promise to be with us always. Only one thing can break our communication with God - if we turn against Him and refuse His help. (Notes from Life Application Study Bible on those verses.)
You are right in that God's grace is a free gift to us. A gift is something you choose to accept. It can't be forced on you. Even if you accept it, you don't have to keep it.
Salvation is like falling in a lake and starting to drown, but then you're rescued. Once you're rescued, that doesn't mean you're always saved from drowning. You can still fall back in the lake again and drown to death. (From "God's Plan for Man" by Finnis Dake)
We must submit our lives daily to God if we want to remain in His grace and continue to be covered by the blood of Jesus. It's in the condition of your heart and your actions.
"The truth is that the Bible does teach a true, just , and lasting security for believers who will put forth an honest effort to remain secure in Christ, if they will meet a few simple conditions of God which are clearly stated and which every man can meet by the means of grace provided in the gospel." - Dake
Here's what I've found in my study...
Salvation is conditional...
1 Corinthians 15:1-2
Now, brothers, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, WHICH YOU RECIEVED and on which you have taken your stand. By this gospel YOU ARE SAVED, IF YOU HOLD FIRMLY TO THE WORD I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.
John 10:27-29:
"My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they FOLLOW me. I give them (that follow Me) eternal life, and they (that follow Me) shall never perish; no one can snatch them (that follow Me) out of my hand. My Father, who has given them (that follow Me) to me, is greater than all[a]; no one can snatch them (that follow me) out of my Father's hand."
Matthew 10:22:
All men will hate you because of Me, BUT HE WHO STANDS FIRM TO THE END will be saved.
One can fall away...
Hebrews 10:26-27
If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God.
Luke 8:13:
Those on the rock are the ones who receive the word with joy when they hear it, but they have no root. THEY BELIEVE FOR A WHILE, BUT IN THE TIME OF TESTING THEY FALL AWAY.
Romans 8:35-39 doesn't say you can't be separated from God. It says you can't be separated from the LOVE of God. Even a sinner who has never committed their life to Christ, still has the love of God.
"Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall trouble or hardship or persecution or famine or nakedness or danger or sword? As it is written:
"For your sake we face death all day long;
we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered."[a] No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons,[b] neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Matthew 7:21:
"Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, BUT ONLY HE WHO DOES THE WILL OF MY FATHER who is in heaven."
God is able to save you 'again'.....
Romans 11:22-23 Consider therefore the kindness and sternness of God: sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you, provided that you continue in his kindness. Otherwise, you also will be cut off. And if they do not persist in unbelief, they will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again.
To repent means to turn away from sin and follow Jesus. If we continue to sin, then we are turning our backs to God. In that case, Jesus will deny us because we denied Him. He's not denying Himself though. He will do what He said He'd do, but we have to do our part. We have to remain in Him.
John 15:1-6
“I am the true grapevine, and my Father is the gardener. 2 He cuts off every branch of Mine that doesn’t produce fruit, and He prunes the branches that do bear fruit so they will produce even more. 3 You have already been pruned and purified by the message I have given you. 4 Remain in Me, and I will remain in you. For a branch cannot produce fruit if it is severed from the vine, and you cannot be fruitful unless you remain in Me.
5 “Yes, I am the vine; you are the branches. Those who remain in Me, and I in them, will produce much fruit. For apart from Me you can do nothing. 6 Anyone who does not remain in Me is thrown away like a useless branch and withers. Such branches are gathered into a pile to be burned.
Galatians 5:22-25
22 But the Holy Spirit produces this kind of fruit in our lives: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, and self-control. There is no law against these things!
24 Those who belong to Christ Jesus have nailed the passions and desires of their sinful nature to His cross and crucified them there. 25 Since we are living by the Spirit, let us follow the Spirit’s leading in every part of our lives.
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