Earlier in Romans 9, it says, "They are not all Israel who are from Israel; neither are they all children because they are Abraham's descendants." Paul isn't denying the law of identity here, so he must mean "Israel" and "children" in two different senses. Not all of the natural descendants are heirs to the promises, and since some gentiles are grafted in to Israel, not all heirs of the promises are natural descendants. So the Jews who are chosen, according to the promises, are not identical with the Jews who are Jews according to the flesh.
2007-09-29 04:04:12
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answered by Jonathan 7
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The Jews WERE God's chosen people, marked through circumcision and given the law which some of them loved, the rest forgot. By the time Jesus walked the earth, they were so steeped in law rather than heart, that they earned Jesus' criticism. They would not see, they were blinded.
Jesus' blood atonement was the fulfillment of the law and the prophets, not a supplement, not a replacement. Circumcision was no longer a "cutting off" of sin, but replaced with baptism pointing to life and freedom in Christ, a washing away of sins where His death, burial, and resurrection is our death to sin, burial with Him, and resurrection to new life.
Yes, we are a remnant, the "new Jews" with a Gospel message, as the OT Jews were a remnant in their time.
2007-09-29 05:03:54
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answered by ccrider 7
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They did suffer a lot in the times of Isaiah. The Northern Kingdom, more numerous than Judah, was destroyed by Assyrians with many killed, and vritually all the rest deported into other parts of the Assyrian Empire (where they seem to have intermarried and lost their Israelite identity).
Judah itself was badly attacked by Assyria, losing people and experiencing much destruction, and of course virtually the whole nation was taken off to captivity in Babylon. Many came back later of course.
As for Jews in Paul's time - a remnant did believe in Christ's message, but many didn't. They were 'chosen' in comparison with other peoples, believing in all sorts of strange (some highly laughable or disgusting) deities.
2007-09-29 04:40:24
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answered by Cader and Glyder scrambler 7
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2016-10-05 12:58:22
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answered by ? 4
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Although this is a very unpopular way of thinking, the Jews are no longer His chosen people. That ended when Jesus made a new covenent. If you really think about it, if Jews were God's chosen people, whouldn't all Christians want to be Jewish and have that special relationship with God? We'd all want what they have, wouldn't we! What would be the reason for Christianity to come into play?
Hebrews 8:7 - 13
7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, no place would have been sought for a second; 8 for he does find fault with the people when he says: “‘Look! There are days coming,’ says Jehovah, ‘and I will conclude with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah a new covenant; 9 not according to the covenant that I made with their forefathers in [the] day of my taking hold of their hand to bring them forth out of the land of Egypt, because they did not continue in my covenant, so that I stopped caring for them,’ says Jehovah.”
10 “‘For this is the covenant that I shall covenant with the house of Israel after those days,’ says Jehovah. ‘I will put my laws in their mind, and in their hearts I shall write them. And I will become their God, and they themselves will become my people.
11 “‘And they will by no means teach each one his fellow citizen and each one his brother, saying: “Know Jehovah!” For they will all know me, from [the] least one to [the] greatest one of them. 12 For I shall be merciful to their unrighteous deeds, and I shall by no means call their sins to mind anymore.’”
13 In his saying “a new [covenant]” he has made the former one obsolete. Now that which is made obsolete and growing old is near to vanishing away.
Jesus also said that His people would come out of all nations and tongues. This is spiritual Israel. Those that follow Jehovah God in spirit and truth are His people today.
2007-09-29 04:31:41
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answered by Suzy 7
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When Christ died, the old Law covenant died.
A 'remnant' remained faithful.
Some recognized & acknowledged Jesus as the Messiah that the Hebrew Scriptures spoke of.
These were favored to enter into the new covenant,
which includes the gentiles.
All families of the earth would be able to bless themselves through the "seed" Jehovah had revealed would come from the line of Abraham.--Gen 12:1-3.
Lynn gave you the actual Scriptures.
that r directly involved.--the word from God.
2007-09-29 05:26:44
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answered by Anonymous
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I believe it's because Jews excepting evangelical Jews, do not believe that Jesus Christ was the Messiah...the Son of the living God and that through His shed blood He brought all of mankind into the saving grace of God. The Jews are indeed cherished of God..but through Christs ultimate sacrifice,His death on the cross...you,my friend and me are also cherished...that we should live and have everlasting life.
2007-09-29 04:11:26
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answered by Becky B 3
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Jewish man goes to heaven as a representative of the Jewish people. He is received by God and says to him: "Is it true that we are the chosen people?" God says: "Yes, you are the chosen people." So the Jewish man says: "Well, would you mind choosing somebody else for a change?"
Chosen DOES NOT MEAN special and better. It means the Jews were chosen by God to spread his word in the world. Now if it makes you feel better to think Jews are not chosen for anything anymore, go right ahead. I should tell you that it does not affect Jews in the least what others think about them. We have survived and we will survive!
2007-09-29 05:33:05
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answered by Anonymous
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Hurray for Philo! You hit the nail, my brother! THAT is the correct answer. The Bible does not contradict itself. There is a reason for everything God said. You just have to study well.
2007-09-29 05:10:18
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answered by Addy 2
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The Jews lost their position as God's Chosen when they rejected the Messiah, Jesus. They were replaced by the Gentiles.
2007-09-29 04:02:18
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answered by Anonymous
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