and tell her that most theists are gullible, and delusional do you still think she will go to Hell.. After all, she will be the direct result of my teachings. I will be a major influence on her life and she will not be afforded the same teachings she would have had if she were to have had if born by a Christian parent.
Does she still have the same free will that *most* Christians were afforded? Are you starting to see the flaw in the free choice argument yet? If not, then why is it that a lot of Christians are outraged by the fact that prayer is not imposed upon people in school. Why is it that Christians are outraged against the fact that religion is not a dominate force in America? Do you see the flaw in that? Free choice is an illusion, people are biased by their up bringing.. I remember a video that was posted just a short time ago regarding an Atheist child and it caused a huge uproar in the Christian community because she was damned due to her parents..
2007-09-29
00:55:05
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Don't you recognize that the freewill argument is completely flawed, that we are not all born equally? Don't you see that when you (or most of those of your religion any ways) argue against freedom from religion you are only demonstrating the basic fact that free will is not real.
2007-09-29
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If my daughter grows up to be a christian all the power to her.. If she grows up to be gay, all the power to her. If she grows up to be a muslim, all the power to her. I am demonstrating a point here, that free will is bs.. I will love my daugher regardless of how she ends up.. but chances are greatly in the favor that she will not believe in God, especially after I show her all of the flaws.. Which are numerous.
2007-09-29
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You've just expressed your free will in two paragraphs.
2007-09-29 01:00:39
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answered by nickson faction 7
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No, your daughter will not go to hell because of what you teach her. Once she becomes of age, she will see for herself if what you say is true.
Yes she has free will, when she is an adult she can choose. I see no flaw in the free will argument. No, "a lot" of Christians are not "outraged" that prayer is not imposed in schools. We are not outraged that religion is not a dominate force in America (mainly because it still is).
Free choice is not an illusion, it's very real. And this "huge uproar" over a video of some atheist child was so huge and so loud that none of us heard it ... have no clue who you are talking about.
2007-09-29 08:02:23
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answered by arewethereyet 7
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You are asking multiple questions here. Freedom of choice (I like to call it free agency) is exactly what it states. Any person has the freedom to choose what they will believe or what they will do.
The environment one is raised in will affect their choices. How can a person choose to believe in God if they have never been taught the Gospel? People are also given weaknesses (genetic traits) to overcome. In each situation, a person has the choice of how they will act.
A person (Christian or non-Christian) has the choice to choose their behavior. They can be nice and helpful to mankind, or they can be destructive towards others. Sometimes the freedom is taken away by a choice they made earlier. A person goes to a bar to drink and indulge in their pastimes. Someone slips something into their drink, and they are doing things they don't normally do. One choice led to the exposure of other things.
I believe you are attempting to prove there is a flaw with "free choice" based on their upbringing. Everyone has "free agency." They can't decide to worship God if they have not heard of him. But, this does not remove the "free choice" they have.
Those people who die never knowing about God and the gift of The Atonement will be taught later. We had our free agency before birth, and we will have it after our death. Everyone will have the chance to accept God. Not everyone will because of that "free agency."
2007-09-29 08:18:23
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answered by jack-copeland@sbcglobal.net 4
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Of course free will is real. Are we all puppets? Yes it is true that we can be influenced by our upbringing but we still have free will. A child brought up by athiests can still find God, can still experience spirituality. The child does not stay with the parents for the rest of it's life. There are always going to be outside influences. I don't see this flaw that you speak of. I hope by bringing your children up as athiests that you are teaching them love and not hate. That would be a terrible shame. Do athiests love in the true sense of the word?
2007-09-29 08:04:24
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answered by teatotler 4
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You have a right to raise your daughter the way you think is right. It's only natural to teach our kids what we believe/don't believe. Everyone does. Hopefully when she gets older she'll start studying the Bible for herself and learn about God. Children are not held responsible for their parents' beliefs. But you will be responsible for how you believe.
Ephesians 6:4 -- Fathers, do not exasperate your children; instead, bring them up in the training and instruction of the Lord.
As a side note, I don't think it's appropriate for any parent to belittle other people to their child by calling them gullible or delusional, just because their beliefs differ from yours.
2007-09-29 08:15:36
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answered by kaz716 7
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You can by all means raise your daughter not to believe in Jesus Christ. Just like O'Hara did her son, but the fact remains the choice is not yours, it is your child's and O'Hara's son choose to believe. There is more evidence than you realize to support Jesus Christ as coming and He is coming again. Archaelogy continues to prove the Bible is true. Right now Bible Prohecy is unvieling. The only one who will answer to God for this is you. You are chosing to exercise your free will. You can teach your daughter to murder but does that make it right? Your theory has many errors but if you want to rejct Jesus He gave you the free will to do so, but one day you will stand before a Holy God and you will stand alone. It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of a living God. Once you are before Him on that great final day, it is too late to change your mind, it is too late for redemption. Whether you believe in Jesus or not does not matter, because He still was, is and will always be. He loved you and he is calling you, but your heart is hard and the choice to receive or reject is yours. If you stand before a Holy God without redemption of Jesus you stand alone. Your child may decide to follow you but can you imagine when she looks at you on that day and ask why you lied to her, why you betrayed her. I was rasied in a non believing home also, but I have walked with Jesus for 23 years and my heart cries for you because you will never know the joy of the Lord and the blessings it is to serve Him unless your heart changes. You will never see know the assurance that only a true believer has in Him unless your unbelief changes. You seemed to be embedded in anger and that is because you love your sins and the the wages of sin is death. You know I will be praying that God reveals Himself to you and demonstrates to you that He is God and He loves you. There will come a time when you will call out to Him, there will be a day that no one else but Him could help you. I pray He will have mercy upon you and show you His wonderful grace.
2007-09-29 11:36:02
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answered by What Would Jesus Do? - M 2
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I am glad I do not live in America.Posting things like that about children is evil. True Christian's should not be bigotted. Jesus reached out to prostitutes and tax collectors and taught to love our neighbours as ourselves. The good samaritan helped someone who was not liked while priests passed by on the other side.When we were told to make a difference in the world it was to live a different life and make it a better place to live. Jesus stopped a crowd stoning a womwn who had cheated on her husband to death and said "Let whoever has not sinned let them throw the first stone. We should look at our own lives rather than condemning others.Tell her the facts about what different people believe without ridiculing their beliefs,teach her to love and respect herself her family and others and let her find out her belief herself.
2007-09-29 08:08:39
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answered by weasel bat 5
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God can penetrate any heart......that's the work of the Holy Spirit. And when He does, the person knows and reacts to Him. That's choice.....free will. This child would not be a problem for God to communicate with.......nor is anyone. You just can't limit the Creator like that. He knows His creations better than they know themselves and can reach the most unreachable with His love.
2007-09-29 08:11:00
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answered by Joyful Noise 5
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You can TRY to raise her to be an atheist, but you may find that she rebels against you and chooses a religion at some point.
That's if you want to approach it so dogmatically. You could, instead, encourage her to be a thinking person who makes her own decisions about such things, rather than blindly following the traditions of the previous generation.
2007-09-29 08:09:03
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answered by Skepticat 6
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I disagree with you about free will.
Each and every person has the ability to choose for themselves, no matter what the situation is. Sure, upbringing may influence their decisions. And some people don't even try to think for themselves, but that just means they've given some of their free will away to another.
But we are all born with free will...it's up to us as indiviuals to use it.
2007-09-29 08:05:24
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answered by Anonymous
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All children eventually free themselves from parental views. Some return of their own 'gulp' free will, but others forge their own paths. The best or worst intentions of parents often have little effect on the child's adult capacity to be a person capable of great or evil deeds.
In your attempt to lead the child astray, it is not the child who will suffer. Your intentions to deliberately misguide the child are known, even to yourself. Perhaps one day you'll open your heart. We can all hope and pray for that.
2007-09-29 08:01:39
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answered by Goethe's Ghostwriter 7
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