Liberals, could you please tell us where you stand on fighting the war on terrorism or Islamofascism?

Question

I as a conservative know where I stand on fighting terrorism.

But where do liberals stand?

I know that you’re against fighting terrorism in Iraq, the Patriotic Act, racial profiling, wiretapping Mosques in America as a precaution to know if any Muslims there could be radical Islamic extremists (A.K.A. - Islamofascists) and some even against fighting and combating terrorism again America all together.

So, please inform me.

I’m really interested.

Thank you

GOD BLESS AMERICA!

Bert, you're a piece of work.

You think I'm going to reveal my picture online to millions, who could be predators or people up to no good?

I could have my picture stolen and put on some magazine.

Lord, that man is confused

Answer 1

I read your question with interest. No where in your question or other statements did you attack liberals. Yet many a lib answerer verbally attacked you for no reason. As Mr. Spock would say, "Fascinating!"
To be fair, some liberals gave fair and thought provoking answers without resorting to adhominem attacks.
My take on this: most liberals have been so filled with hatred for George Bush since the 2000 election that they are blinded by it. Nothing he does is correct, nothing he does in regard to the safety of this nation or the prosecution of this war is correct. The raging hate these so-called tolerant liberals possess is cluttering up their thought processes and warping their judgment. I am convinced that some even hate our president more than the enemy.
We have people in this world who hate our collective guts whether we are liberals or conservatives, blacks or whites, men or women. They hated us before 911 and before the invasion of Iraq. To say we are creating more terrorists is like saying we caused more Japanese to join the military after we declared war on them in 1941. Of course more are getting involved, it's the very nature of warfare. Duh!!
Anyway, I could go on and on but I don't want to bore you.
Great post and GOD BLESS AMERICA!

Answer 2

Terrorism isn't a thing to make war upon it is a tool used by people who are desparate and have no access to normal weapons as armies do. It is not an Ideology either. But it can be used by those with any ideology even by you under the right circumstances. Islamofascists is a word coined by the far right to sell their PNAC agenda. It is used to describe anyone and everyone whom they perceive a threat to their narrow views. The Islamofascist doesn't even have to be a Muslim or a Fascist but to those caught up in the PNAC agenda that is as good as any evil title to pin on them.

Did you know there were no terrorists in Iraq before our invasion. Saddam wouldn't allow it. There really were only a few thousand in the entire Middle East until we invaded Iraq. That invasion was the greates recruiting tool Al Qaeda and other such groups could have ever dreamed of. You say Islamofascists are Islamic extremists but from the responses I see it is much more general than that. Many on the right practice racial profiling as they see someone from the Middle East and automatically assume the person is a terrorist. Wiretapping Mosques in America is wiretapping some who may be American Citizens. The Administration need only get a warrent within 30 days of the wire tap explaining the specific reason for the tap. That isn't happening so the 4th Amendment rights of Americans are violated by the Administration and those doing the tapping.

Answer 3

I have no problem with fighting the terrorists, but I think the best ways to do so are not conventional warfare. Conventional warfare presents problems, because it is too visible. It makes more terrorists quite simply. Covert operations along with aide and diplomacy are clearly the better route.

I on principle oppose any weakening of the constitution by horrible legislation like the Patriot Act. It completely obliterates the Bill of Rights. It would take just one tyrant to abuse the Patriot Act any way he chooses. The President isn't meant to be that strong of a position the real power of the nation is meant to be placed in the Congress and the Constitution.

Ben Franklin said: Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. In essence that is what the Patriot act does. Neo-cons especially seem to be willing to give up Liberty which can forever be preserved in exchange for safety which is NEVER permanent.

They can wiretap all they want if it is legal by the laws of the this land i.e. they need a warrant to do it. Racial profiling is wrong and everyone should get similar treatment.

Answer 4

A presupposition is an assumption, and you already know what assuming does. the U. S. has committed its honest share of terrorism to boot. shop that for the duration of recommendations. at the beginning, i might on the instant withdraw from Iraq and Afghanistan. Victory in the two undefined, and if achieveable in any respect, no longer rather actual worth the fee in blood and treasure. Google some thing for me. Who became the final distant places skill that gained a conflict in Afghanistan? Secondly, i might withdraw our militia from all distant places bases. the reason we’re hated lots is by way of the fact we stick our damn nostril the place it doesn’t belong constantly. Thirdly, i might make reaching potential independence the suitable precedence over all else for the duration of this us of a. At that factor, we are able to rather go away those so stated as “terrorist” states to rot.

Answer 5

YOU DO KNOW HOW to stir up the Lefty's / liberals, and that is by asking questions whereby their answers show the world, what they really are, and how their thought patterns run, AND, there are those "Closet" liberals that WON'T answer, because they have enough sense to realize that every thing is not as first presented !! Where do they stand on the "WAR" in Iraq??
FIRST, before they can answer this question, they have to check with the "News Management Sources" to find out WHO stands where, today, and when was the last change of THE OFFICIAL POSITION( before the next change).

Answer 6

Are you aware that of what you listed, all of it is either irrelevant to fighting terror or unconstitutional? I know you don't like America much, but those of us who love it want to protect it from real threats, i.e. those who would take away our freedoms.

The fighting in Iraq has nothing to do with fighting those who may attack us here. Even if Al-Quad has now been able to get into Iraq thanks to our actions, that does not mean that fighting them there will keep them from coming here. Only a simpleton could think that, quite frankly. If law enforcement and intelligence agencies had simply done their jobs, then 9/11 could have been prevented. The PATRIOT Act was unnecessary, unless the purpose was to restrict American liberties. I didn't even realize that people wanted to randomly wiretap mosques. Why not just incarcerate all Muslims in the US? That would solve the problem, right? On the other hand, if the ones we're fighting in Iraq are the ones who would otherwise be attacking us here, why bother?

Finally, who has ever said that they are against fighting and combating terrorism? That's just something cons made up about liberals. We would just rather fight it effectively and legally. You know, like good Americans. Or maybe you don't know about that.

Answer 7

A-Any terrorism that we are fighting in Iraq is only there because of conditions that the U.S. is responsible for.
In fact, as has already been pointed out many times, if we would have stayed focused on truly fighting terrorism instead of committing our forces on a pointless invasion, we would probably be safer.
B-I have no problem wiretapping mosques in America.
IF (and this is a big IF in Dubyah's world), the government is provided a warrant by a court based on evidence that a wiretap will prevent illegal activities.

Answer 8

Did you notice that the implementation of the remainder of the 911 commission's recommendations have finally been approved by Congress? I have not heard the democrats being against most of these programs that the Bush administration has initiated. They just want some protections concerning our rights in the Constitution and the normalization of the power given to the executive branch. There has to be a way for Congress to have oversight on these programs to be sure there is no abuse of power. I can't understand the Right Wing's objections to this.

Protecting against terrorism is extremely important but so is protecting the rights assured to us by the Constitution. You may have a different outlook on this when future presidents assume this power. It shouldn't all be left up to blind trust.

Answer 9

I won't speak for liberals. But I'm sure you'd mistake me for one because, from your posts, you seem to think there's only two viewpoints in the world.

My belief: we ought to seriously go after Bin Laden. We ought to seriously censure, if not downright declare war on Saudi Arabia.

You want to stop Islamic terrorism? Why not deal with the country that sends the mosts terrorists to Iraq. Saudi Arabia.
The country that funds and promoted Jihad through it's Wahabiist school system. Saudi Arabia. The country that Bin Laden came from. Saudi Arabia. The country that sent the overwhelming majority of terrorists to attack us on 9/11. Saudi Arabia.

When you can explain to me why our government completely lets this country off the hook, I'll believe that you and the rest of the agitators for war against all Islam have a case to make.

I really don't even expect you to answer, but would be delighted if you would use your add details feature to explain this to me.

Oh, and by the way. You arent even remotely interested in any of the responses you'll get.

You'll just stay under you ignorant rock and rant, thinking you are a patriot.

Answer 10

You say God Bless America at the end of your post.I take it then that you consider yourself a good American.So why aren't you questioning what started this war?After all Moussaoui was in FBI custody weeks before 911!Why did FBI HQ obstruct terrorism investigations in Minneapolis by not getting requested FISA warrants?Why didn't the FBI agents who arrested him(Moussaoui) testify before the 911 commission?
If you are a true American patroit who believes in the beliefs of our founding fathers(life,liberty and the pursuit of happiness).........you should be asking yourself what really happened on 9/11/2001!

Rather then spouting the Bush doctrine!Put your nation before your party or president!