Under Hillary Healthcare, Do I have to Pay for People who are Obese, Smoke and Never Do Any Exercise?

Question

Isn't America great?

Ruin your health and let other people shell out $500,000 to $1,000,000 when you get deathly sick.

Answer 1

Yes you will until Hillary gets legislation pushed through that limit people's ability to smoke and eat as they please and forces them to exercise........

Answer 2

Only at first. After the government racks up a few trillion in new debt: smoking, drinking, not exercising, or being overweight will be illegal. The government will come up with hundreds of disclaimers that make you ineligible for coverage. If costs get bad enough, they could start throwing fat people in jail.

I'm not even kidding - you lose "universal" coverage in the U.K. if you're deemed overweight or if you are a smoker. If we did that here, we'd end up with a universal system that covers LESS people than the current market-based one.

50 million uninsured now (being generous)? Well, give it to 300 million then take it away from the 30 million smokers and 100 million fat people. Taxes just went up so 80 million people could lose coverage.

It just doesn't work. If there's no consequence for personal choices, the government has to come in and force it one way or another. Or, we could pretend there is unlimited wealth and just go deeper into debt until the dollar isn't even worth a peso.

Answer 3

You are paying for it now, with high premiums, less coverage and less availability of coverage. When people can't afford to pay their healthcare bills who do you think pays for that?
I can only think that teaching healthy lifestyles in school, (less people smoke now because of educaton), teaching healthy alternatives, serving better food in schools and promoting healthy activites vs. video games that we could be a healthier nation but our insurance companies are raping us. Health insurance should be a right not a priviledge in a country that is supposed to be a super power. Enough money gets wasted on a lot worse things. Many people can't afford to live, literally. If you get sick with insurance and end up with a bill for 100,000 dollars can you afford 20% of that. And that's not having cancer or a terminal illness, should your family have to plan benefits on your behalf, should you have to worry about your mounting debt when you are facing a life or death struggle?? Say all you want but I hope you never have to go through what some families do with the system we have now.

Answer 4

Not only that, but you may die before they do too!
How unfair.
You see, the differences are rather minuscule, a month less life at 85, two weeks at 55.
Who would you have insured? Jim Fixx runner, non smoker, not an ounce of fat on him...dead of a heart attack at 52.
Or an overweight granny, former smoker, easy on the exercise now...and still going at sixty.
Or 89?
Or 92?
All of which is irrelevant since my 32 year old cousin was killed by an automobile.
The thin, the fat, the old and young all have bodies that might need repair one day, that's why we all need affordable insurance availability.

Answer 5

Do I have to pay for people who are Stupid, Uneducated and Never Seem to Do Any Mental Exercise of their own?

You already do. You pay into that in privatized healthcare. It's part of premiums.

We leverage the weak in every facet of our economy. Roads, school, facilities, governament, even tax code federal loops that make us pay the big for corporations!

Point being is that we already pay such an inequitable amount of our taxes within the tax scheme that if you new and understood every breakdown of it all you owuld realize your question is moot.

To contribute to the overall benefit of society is a great thing. It works. Yes, you have to pick up slack of others but this pays off in others ways down the road (crime, education, jobs).

I don't see why this has to be politicized. There is a moral imperative here, and that is taking care of others regardless of there shortcomings - Lord knows we do for you in some indirect way.

The arrogance in such a question is disgusting too. You may be cozy now, but mark my words, life has its turns and when it flips on you you may be asking in hoping for the same help. I wouldn't want to temp fate that way!

We are always helping somebody weaker than us in some way; and you are weak relatively too. Relative to what, to who? How do you make the standard for who is fat or stupid or lazy? How do you define that? Where is the line and where do you fall on it relative to others in Society? Should we cut you out too because you are not as smart as Bill Gates? Not as fit as Brad Pitt? Not as productive as Warren Buffet? Where do you fall on the lines of "not worthy" and who are you to judge others by implying your denial of healthcare for those who are worse off?

Don't forget, we're all in this together. This is what a country is, this is what humanity is.

Answer 6

Actually under the Hillay health plan, private insurers will be paying for the care. The tax payers will be paying for tax credits to assist those who can't afford to pay the premiums of Health Insurance.

Now to get a real clear understanding of the impact of this plan understand that a person who makes $20000 a year may not be able to afford a health insurance plan but also already pays very little to nothing in taxes. An additional tax credit benefits them very little.

Answer 7

That's true of all healthcare plans, including private! The healthy people always pay the bills of the sick people, it's called pooling recourses. You can get sick too, whether you are fat, a smoker or otherwise.

Answer 8

Isn't America great? Third world levels of infant mortality and the most common cause of bankruptcy being medical expenses. People who are insured, but can't be covered for major illnesses. Oh yeah, that's a great America. She really loves her people.

Answer 9

Not only that , but you`ll have to pay for the hordes of illegals that will be coming here to take advantage of the "free" medicare .

Answer 10

the questioner is probably overweight him or herself. So just hush. and some of the answerers are fat also. You sit behind a screen. No one knows what the heck you look like. Some of you are sitting there right now smoking your pants off and eating McDonalds.
So just hush.
and hope you don't get sick
sillies