Question for pro-lifers?

Question

If you are against abortion, then are you also against the death penality? Please support your answer rationally.

Many people are executed who are actually innocent. If its a "human life" how can you rationalize taking it as in during execution. Murder is murder, right? Regardless of what they have or have not done.

One more thing to think about- many people who are given the death penality have mental disabilities. Hence, thier crime could have been something they just could not physically stop. People make mistakes, right? Mistakes come in all forms, from getting pregnant to taking someones life. Abortion hurts only the mother (maybe), the fetus feels no pain. The death penalty however, hurts the entre family of the person. Think about it.

Answer 1

Good question. I am against abortion and I support the death penalty in "some" circumstances. Here is the rationale:

1. There is a difference between deliberate murder (i.e. abortion or other violent crimes against people) and killing (i.e. defending your home against a killer, defending your country when it is attacked and executing a guilty person).

2. Capital punishment does not fall under the category of murder. Murder is a crime against an innocent person. A deadly criminal being executed is NOT innocent therefore the state is justified in killing (not murdering) the criminal to pay the penalty for the HUGE crime he committed, and also to protect society from the murderer taking other innocent lives.

3. Capital punishment does not HAVE to be used if the state has other methods for punishing and rehabilitating criminals AND keeping the public safe from them.

Regarding #3 above, I would say that in America (my particular country) the justice system is not working as it should right now. Many dangerous criminals are allowed to walk the streets again. Also, most rehabilitation efforts are a dismal failure. So sadly YES we need the death penalty right now because we haven't got it together as we should and we have a DUTY to keep citizens safe.

I look forward to the day when America will not need the death penalty anymore. When justice will be served fairly, murderers will be duly punished and securely imprisoned, and when rehabilitation is deep and lasting so that criminals have true conversions of the heart and go on to be better citizens.

Answer 2

I am against both abortion and the death penalty. The only exception to being against the death penalty wold be if the person could not be contained in a normal person( which is so rare now I do not even think it would occur).
We, as humans, whether we are the government or ordinary citizens do not have the right to take a life, we are not God.
The death p[penalty seems to be a means of revenge and not of justice, which the Justice system should be built on.Although I know if someone I knew were to be killed, in a moment of intense emotion i would likely want that person to suffer the death penalty, that is my emotions talking and not my true beliefs. A persons emotions should not be the basis for public policy.
Putting a criminal to death does not negate or make up for the crimes they committed, nothing can bring a murder victim back.Also, by executing criminals we are taking away their chance to atone for their mistakes and for someday being able to apologize to their victims families and also for them to make peace with God and what they have done.

Abortion is even worse, it is saying to a baby, " You are not convenient to me right now, so therefore you must die".

Answer 3

I am not against the death penalty, b/c those criminals made the choice to murder someone or commit some other heinous crime, and they were tried by a jury, and found guilty.
I am against abortion, b/c we're making a choice for an innocent person w/out a voice, that their life would be better off not lived, w/out giving them any choice or say; or they're just terminated b/c of the inconvenience they cause the mother, sometimes.
lol! Getting pregnant is a mistake; taking someones life?? that's not a mistake! If it is, in an accidental death, or self defense, I defy you to find someone who was charged w/ the death penalty for an accidental death!
The "fetus" feels no pain, huh?

http://www.silentscream.org/

this is not made up stuff. It's all properly documented. Watch the video.

Answer 4

yes, I am against the death penalty, but not in the same way I am against abortion. Abortion is in principle an assault on innocent human life, and so unacceptable. (I would argue, by the way, that it is not true that it hurts at most only the mother, and not the baby because it feels no pain. First, it is not true it feels no pain. Second, by parity of reasoning it would be acceptable to kill people in their sleep. In any case, abortion hurts society by making protection under the law UNequal, at the whim of certain other people, and once that principle is established, we are all in danger). The death penalty can serve two needs of society - retribution and protection. The retributive aspect, I think, we are growing out of. The protective aspect (to protect society) is generally not necessary, at least in times of civil tranquillity.
The philosopher Max Scheler said something similar to Alan Keyes the other night - when a state executes a criminal it does so understanding that it, the state, is not the final judge of human worth. I believe, though, that the distinction between killing a human being, and damning their soul, is not one that should be a basis for civil law.

Answer 5

Actually, true pro-life is against the death penalty. But your statement that "many" innocent people are executed is wrong. There are not many people executed (at least in America) at all. They sit on death row for years and years. Actually, there has never been anyone executed who was later proved to be innocent.

But, as a pro-life advocate, we are against abortion and against the death penalty. No one knows what God is doing with a person. That person, no matter what they've done, has the ability to repent and be forgiven. We should not take that away from anyone.

Answer 6

No.

What we have to be concerned with is in the proper investigation of crimes. All that are sentenced to death must be proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, this is the premise (and I can only speak for the U.S.) of our legal system.

A just society must bring justice to anyone who has been victimized. The fact is that there's a limit to the kind of aberration that an individual is allowed to commit.

Many find it hypocritical that some are for the death penalty but not abortion. Let me put it in black in white: Children haven't committed any crimes in the womb so they deserve a chance at life. Maniacs that commit unspeakable crimes have proven who they are and have no business living in any society. In essence, they've had a chance and have destroyed lives with it. That said, they should just make peace with their maker as they should be sent to meet him expeditiously.

If you want to see a great argument for the death penalty, see the link below. In January of 1992, 4 teen aged girls tortured, molested, mutilated, and ultimately murdered a 12 year old girl by burning her alive. Although they were given up to as many as 60 years in prison, 2 are already out and the other 2 are sure to follow. This is a definite argument for the death penalty.

Answer 7

I am against abortion, however, if a 12 yr old was raped and became pregnant - I think this may be a legitimate issue or reason.
The reasons I am against abortion include
* it should not be a form of birth control
* there are risk factors that most women are never informed of - it's not always a "simple procedure"
* It is a business - people are making money and tax payers are paying for some of it - whether or not they agree
* It causes depression and deep feelings of guilt for the woman who goes through with it, more often than not
* there are lots of couples who wish to adopt
* Morally, I believe it is wrong. I believe a child is a child from the time of conception. The Bible backs me up on this point, which is MY moral compass for knowing right and wrong.
I am Pro-death penalty -
In the event it is proven beyond a reasonable doubt that the convict is GUILTY. The dealth penalty should be reserved for the worst of the worst. The Bible backs me up on this too.
I don't think my tax dollars need to be spent to keep a child killer/molestor or repeat violent offender alive. Sorry - in my book, if you harm a child - that's it. If you harm the elderly or weak. If you rape and kill women - you're done. Some people have no chance for rehabilitation and they CHOSE to commit their crimes.
Babies have all the potential in the world to become anything - Who's to say through all the millions of abortions that we haven't lost countless Einsteins, Mozarts, Abraham Lincolns, scientists, composers, artists, teachers, doctors, etc... did you know that with the aging population growing (baby boomers), since abortion was legalized, we have lost thousands of people who could have helped balance the system. We already know we are short for healthcare providers, teachers and so forth. I think abortion has cost the US more than we could realize. And it was so convenient...

Answer 8

No disrespect, ma'am, but I don't think you understand what murder means. To murder is to deliberately take the life of an innocent person.

Criminals who get the death penalty are NOT innocent. They deserve punishment and society deserves to be protected from them.

A fetus is totally innocent, on the other hand, therefore abortion is always murder no matter at what stage. And yes, the fetus does feel pain at some point. Science has proven this.

Answer 9

I am against abortion because I believe every conceived baby has a right to experience life and perhaps make a name for themselves. There are very few people that are born and make important contributions to society, like becoming a research doctor and maybe finding a cure for a disease.
On the other hand I support the death penalty for those who waste their opportunity for a good life and brutally murder somebody especially a child with no good reason for it. I do not support the death penalty for everyone who commits murder. Just the cases where the victims are murdered in a brutal way with no reason other than in outright cold blood

Answer 10

I'm pro-choice -- I believe other people should have a right to decide what they want to do with their body. HOWEVER, I am pro-life meaning if I ever got pregnant I would keep the baby.

I am for the death penalty though. This is because someone who commited the crime KNOWINGLY hurt somebody with malice. I just believe that some people deserve what is coming to them. This is quite a messy and complicated topic honestly.

As for comparing abortion and the death penalty, the people that get the death penalty have done something to deserve it. For the babies that lose their lives due to abortion, they do NOT ask to die... I think that is the big difference.

This makes me think... what would this country do if all the women that had abortions would have criminal charges brought against them? Hmmm...