you say we are animals. the fittest survive, the weak die from their own weakness like animals in the jungle. do what feels good because we are just selfish animals. then you say you don't need any 'god' telling you to do good things because you have it in your hearts without a god to do it already, so youre better than christians. HA! friggin A ......
Cowards!
2007-09-27 22:45:59 · 32 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
what lion who just killed a zebra to eat would hand it over to a starving pregnant zebra female just because its the right thing to do?
2007-09-27 22:47:28 · update #1
mypublici: my father is a game hunter. if i had the patience to kill the meat i eat i would certianly be out there doing it pal
2007-09-27 22:54:27 · update #2
why are theists deluded?
2007-09-27 22:48:25 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 11⤊ 1⤋
In order...
We are animals.
In nature the fit survive, while the weak die. This is a fact. Predators take down the weakest prey, while the stronger ones survive.
I've never said, 'do what feels good'. I have however, said 'do what you think is right'. There's a huge difference, because the right thing, is not always the most pleasant choice. Gods don't enter into it. Morality, right and wrong, sin, etc. are all things that are human constructs. As society changes and develops, morals do as well. Things that were once honorable, are now horrible in our world view (eating the brains of the dead, to gain their knowledge, for instance).
If you're unwilling to accept facts, that's fine. It's a much braver person who can accept the fact that, in the overall scope of the universe, they're fairly insignificant. We don't need to be special in the eyes of a deity to enjoy our lives.
BTW...You're additional details make no sense, whatsoever. First...a lion will share his kill with the rest of his pride. By feeding others of his species, he helps the species to survive (you make the mistake of implying survival equals 'right'). Zebras, on the other hand are herbivores, and physically capable of eating meat, let alone another dead zebra.
2007-09-27 23:02:26 · answer #2 · answered by Bill K Atheist Goodfella 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I guess the term social animal is lost on you. All animals display some sort of socialised behaviour.
Check out the film Battle of Kruger on You tube. Here you will see Buffalo coming back to rescue a baby Buffalo from lions.
Nobody says that all our behaviour is selfish. Certainly much of it is and even altruism can also have a selfish element to it.
For example I may help someone because it makes me feel good, or raises my standing in the eyes of others. I know the difference between right and wrong because I have learned it through society. Some are prepared to take the risk and go against societies rules and other aren't. It is nothing God given.
2007-09-27 22:52:32 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
Game Theory....
Take a smartarse species like humanity....
Ascribe the roles of "Selfish" and "Altruist" ...
To cut the long story short.... the "Selfish" option has the greatest payback, but also damages others in the system the most.... If everyone takes the "Selfish" option then the net result is that everyone does pretty poorly due to being simultaneously exploited by everyone else.
"Altruist" has less personal payback by far.... but if everyone around you is helping you.... everyone ends up better overall.
That is why society advocates altruism.... and why individual people will pretend to be playing the Altruist game while actually trying to cheat the system by playing Selfish behind the scenes (for the greatest overall payback, assuming everyone else is playing Altruist).
Kinda obvious really.
2007-09-27 22:55:55 · answer #4 · answered by Lucid Interrogator 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Don't tell me what I say, you foul-mouthed child.
Even a lion does good to its own relatives so that its own progeny have a better chance of survival. Being smarter than lions, we not only understand and exploit better the practical survival advantages of cooperation and refraining from infighting, but we can understand by reason on a whole different level where our best interests and our obligations lie.
2007-09-27 22:57:00 · answer #5 · answered by Voyager 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Who's lying now. By your logic, I really hope you are a vegetarian because if you eat beef or chicken, then you are the same as that lion, yet you lack the constitution to kill the animal yourself. Who's the coward now!
By your definition, I would rather be a coward, than be a sheep... Hmmm sheep, more fodder for the lion...
2007-09-27 22:50:34 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 6⤊ 0⤋
If you god was so god,will he allow such butchery in the world..im not talking of war , but the survival of the fittest principle...see animals kill each other to eat...see this bloodshed/violence..why did god the all generous and all powerful created such a world...does he like ppl to suffer..that does not make sense...why so much violence and blood...see a deer,what did they ever do wrong to be savagely attacked by hungry predators...why do they have to suffer...tell me why!!!
of course you can.....you know instead of losing you time judging veryone, every atheist...be more open...open you eyes...do not limit yourself to some ideas on;y...get mature...
COME ON,IT IS TIME TO GROW UP....
2007-09-27 22:53:02 · answer #7 · answered by rapstar 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
you don't understand what the word "evolutionary fitness" means.
in actuallity, morals are a part of fitness.
simply because people who have morals can help entire cities to survive. and communities that have morals can work together for common survival.
so yes, we athiests are better than christians like you (not christians in general) because we don't discriminate against people like you do. this gives us a higher evolutionary fitness, because it means that we don't create enemies.
you, on the other hand, will have to confess that you judged an entire group of people because of your misconception. and presumably, you'll have to ask us for forgiveness if you ever expect god to forgive you for judging people the way you just did.
2007-09-27 23:11:26 · answer #8 · answered by Epigeios 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋
you really have some suppressed urges and you are actually pissed at god because the whole "damnation"thing,huh?Also,why would a lion give a zebra to another zebra?Zebras don't eat meat.You are a very angry person,get help
2007-09-27 22:54:26 · answer #9 · answered by nobodinoze 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
i am hereby challenging you to realise your own stupidity.
ask 100 people if they would like to be murdered... when all 100 say no, i believe we can safely conclude that murder is wrong.
now, go ask 100 more people... well, i think you get the picture.
moral of story: if you think we need some imaginary god to teach us morals, maybe you're better off believing in an imaginary god to teach you morals. no telling what people like you'd do otherwise!
2007-09-27 22:52:31 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
so your better than atheists? why are christians high dreams running around after something they can prove real? a bit of a waste of time isnt it? get a life and respect other peoples choices of wether they want to believe or not, there are many different religions and beliefs so quit trying to make yours sound superior.
2007-09-27 22:54:47 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋