Atheists: how can you say there is no God?

Question

For the statement to be true, I must know that there is no gold in China, or the statement is incorrect. To say "There is no God," and to be correct in the statement, I must be omniscient.

I must know how many hairs are upon every head, every thought of every human heart, every detail of history, every atom within every rock...nothing is hidden from my eyes...I know the intimate details of the secret love-life of the fleas on the back of the black cat of Napoleon's great-grandmother. To make the absolute statement "There is no God." I must have absolute knowledge that there isn't one.

Answer 1

To tell you the truth there are just some things that cannot be explained...and this god thing...is one of many...there is no proof he exists...and there is no proof he doesn't.

Answer 2

Gotta love inductive reasoning.

pwnage time:

So what you are disgracefully trying to do is rebut a claim that someone made. More than likely a flawed debate that ended up with "prove there is a god" followed up by "prove that their isnt"

A claim that there is a superior being that has exists since the beginning of time carries some of the burden of proof, and therefore has to be substantiated. The fact an opponent cannot disprove the claim is insufficient. For the claim to be accepted; it MUST be proved.

Perhaps your argument is "I know/believe/can prove that God exists because he showed himself to me (through some miraculous event) That argument makes the same claim and does support it, but the support (that God has revealed himself to you) requires you to believe something else that is itself unsupported and even more unusual.


Oh and to address your little omniscient spiel.

I CAN, MAY, AND FREQUENTLY make the absolute statement that there is no god. All the while, being correct.

That is what is called inherent omniscience.

Answer 3

It is just as logical or illogical to say there Is a god as to say there is none, if one is dealing purely with logic. One cannot know certainly either way, as there is no evidence whatever. The things claimed as evidence for God are really not evidence. Some claim the complexity of the universe as evidence for God, but this really amounts to saying "I don't know how this happened, so there must be a god."

The atheist's position is much more logical. It starts from the assertion that what is not yet explained likely has an explanation. To jump to the conclusion that what is unexplained is proof of a god is to make a logically untenable leap. It is like saying "I don't know what that light was, so there must be people from other star systems visiting us."

There are safe and dangerous philosophical and scientific positions. Safe is the position that does not rely on fabrications for explanations. To go with what can be seen or observed must necessarily be safe.

If one assumes that there is a god who wished us to believe in him, would not that being have written in the fabric of life what is necessary for that belief? Would he really rely on an unsubstantiable document if the penalty for disbelief were eternal punishment?

To rely on something that doesn't make any sense as the basis for testing reality is intellectual laziness.

Answer 4

We know there is gold in China um how do we know this? Because we can SEE it. To do so we would take a trip down there and find where it can be dug up from.

We can't see, feel, hear, smell god or use any of our human senses when it comes to a deity. The things you mention we can use our senses to know they are there.

Answer 5

The question is related with religions & spirituality. If some one say that there is no God then what kind of pain arises to us provided that some one does not want to believe on Almighty. The almighty has given such power to them to carry on work not to have faith on God. In fact,there is the wish & order of Almighty for such people. We should not bother too much about such people and it can be taken as my answer. I thank you for the questioner to ask question about not to believe on God by particular community.

Answer 6

First, I exhale some air through my voice box, causing it to vibrate. I start by making a voiced labiodental fricative, but generally speaking I manipulate the position of my tongue in my mouth and the shape of my lips in order to make a series of speech sounds that are interpreted by listeners as the sentence "there is no God".

Child's play, really.

Answer 7

You're right in a sense. The existence/non-existence of God is something that can never be definitively disproven, but it can be shown that it is EXTREMELY unlikely. The existence of God is nonsensical according to nearly all modern day science. I'd say that pushes towards the side of non-existence.

Answer 8

Stop plagiarizing other people's arguments. Or is it just a coincidence that a quick Yahoo search turns up this argument with this exact same wording on at least four ministries' websites?

Logical and empirical knowledge are not the same. I know logically that there is no god.

Answer 9

Not really, do you need to know all of that to say that Santa doesn't exist or that unicorns don't exist? It sounds like you put a lot of thought in to what you would need to know, but it really is not that complex. Not sure what the intimate love life of fleas has to to with any imaginary being....

Answer 10

That's the thing right there, I don't know if there is one or not. Logic tells me that there is no god, so in my personal opinion, there isn't. No proof that there is and no proof there isn't. So, unless I have proof standing right before me, I choose to go with logic and not believe.