Your "mother church" is spending untold millions of dollars that was given by the faithful to help the poor and the church on paying off accusers. They are sweeping pedophile priests actions under the rug. Where in the bible does it tell us to pay extortion for the gospels sake. The bible says to confess your faults not hide them.. John 14:6 says Jesus is the light and when you shine it what do you see. you gift out of love is being used to cover sin. Would you give if it was your child that was hurt?
2007-09-27 04:25:18 · 13 answers · asked by jesussaves 7 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
If I were in a group that used millions to pay victims of rapists that they hid and concealed from the public, I'd leave that second. I think there's so many obvious biblical and physical reasons to leave the catholic cult (the false gospel of works that leads to eternal hell being at the top of the list), I don't see why even one person would be left in it. Idols are hard to leave, though, as the Bible has shown.
2007-09-27 04:28:00 · answer #1 · answered by CJ 6 · 4⤊ 12⤋
"Your "mother church" is spending untold millions of dollars that was given by the faithful to help the poor and the church on paying off accusers"
True, when you have a wrong the best thing you can do is to try to make ammends as much as you can, they are actually selling property to pay for this. Even though some claims are most likely false, I fully support paying to help lives that have been harmed.
"They are sweeping pedophile priests actions under the rug. Where in the bible does it tell us to pay extortion for the gospels sake."
Not true, some Bishops DID that but not in the recent past, this is not going on now.
"The bible says to confess your faults not hide them.. John 14:6 says Jesus is the light and when you shine it what do you see. you gift out of love is being used to cover sin. Would you give if it was your child that was hurt"
That is EXACTALLY what the Church is doing and yet you are still condemning it. The Money is not to cover sin, it is to try to make some reparations for the harm caused. The Pope has asked for forgiveness for all immoral acts ever committed.
If my Child was hurt, I would prosecute the offender and make sure they were punished and imprissoned. It would shake my faith, and that person would be responcible. If your child was abused by a School teacher would you stop teaching him/her?
Sure, there have been some bad Priests, I am thankfull that our Priest has done the opposite, helped my kids become grounded, moral, responcible adults.
Peace be with you.
2007-09-27 11:43:28 · answer #2 · answered by C 7 · 3⤊ 2⤋
As long as the victims and the false-accusers feel they need to be compensated what is the church supposed to do? At least the true victims should be compensated in some way, so where else should the church get the money? I don't think the church gets to decide on how much the court orders it to pay out. I'm not going to use this as an excuse not to support my church that does an inordinate amount of good for the world.
2007-09-27 11:44:21 · answer #3 · answered by Thom 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
How have the "faults", or sins committed here, NOT been confessed, in a very public manner? The settlements are both an admission of the Church's responsibility and a means of justice to the victims, though no amount of money can restore what they lost. There remains no other reparation, especially since many of the priests involved are already dead. Short of drawing and quartering those who remain, I fail to see what else you would have the Church do. But to call it extortion is to demean the victims; in doing so you are using this well-publicized situation to fuel your own anti-Catholicism at their expense.
Your assertion that pedophile priests "are being" swept under the rug is selective hyperbole. This is what was done, past tense, that exacerbated the problem. It is hardly something the bishops can continue to practice, now is it?
In actual fact, there are -- and will continue to be -- many necessary changes as a result of these cases, from the archdiocese level to the seminaries down to the individual parishes, to protect the children. You won't see screaming headlines about them. But as much as you'd like to believe that the big bad church is just shelling out hush money and doing nothing about the problem itself, you'd be wrong.
My offering is not being used to "cover sin"; what a ridiculous notion, with all due respect. My offering is no longer "my money", if in fact it ever was. If the Church needs to use a portion of it to take care of the victims, so be it.
Whatever your private opinion, which is entirely your business, do please stop and think before publicly venting your anti-Catholicism by standing on the backs of victims of pedophilia, who have already been hurt enough.
2007-09-27 12:08:56 · answer #4 · answered by Clare † 5 · 2⤊ 2⤋
You left out the heritics
Welcome to a collection of news reports of ministers sexually abusing children:
http://www.reformation.com/
ALL Protestant denominations - 838 Ministers
147 Baptist Ministers
251 "Bible" Church Ministers (fundamentalist/evangelical)
140 Anglican/Episcopalian Ministers
38 Lutheran Ministers
46 Methodist Ministers
19 Presbyterian Ministers
197 various Church Ministers
2007-09-27 12:53:14 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
I believe one of the many flaws of Christianity and Catholicism is the idea of forgiveness. There are many times when it is good to forgive, but now always. By forgiving everyone, priests especially, you're allowing more people to be victimized. Actually the main thing wrong with the catholic church is their idea that they're always right. They have zero humility about it. They're not always right, they're usually wrong, but they never admit it.
Of course they did apologize for arresting Galileo for saying the earth goes around the sun. Too bad it came 300 years after the fact.
2007-09-27 11:34:21 · answer #6 · answered by kimmyisahotbabe 5 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Yes I would give if it was my child that was hurt. I am giving to God's Church, which shows me the way to eternal life, and which provides more human services to the poor of the world than all other churches combined. I am not giving to a handful of priests who committed a particular sin/crime. All the members of the Church, including priests and including myself, are sinners. That's why we have the Church. the Church is a hospital for sinners, not a club for saints. I should stop supporting God's Church and its many godly ministries because a few priests committed ungodly acts? I already knew that before these accusations ever came to light.
2007-09-27 11:30:33 · answer #7 · answered by PaulCyp 7 · 3⤊ 3⤋
Those people sold a Nunnery that Nuns have been living for untold years right from under them and put those old gals out on the street in Santa Barbara California to pay off the molested kids!
2007-09-27 11:32:37 · answer #8 · answered by mikepruitt71 3 · 2⤊ 3⤋
Because the Church herself is separate from men who ignore the grace
2007-09-27 12:43:02 · answer #9 · answered by Gods child 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
why are you concerned where others place there money?
Who cares if they still give to the church....why do they have to justify there spending habits to you?
2007-09-27 13:39:55 · answer #10 · answered by divers_godeeper 5 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Just because THEY.... have escaped Man's Law.... does Not Mean... they will.... Escape the JUDGMENT OF GOD!
(Luke 17:2) It were better for him that a millstone were hanged around his neck and he were cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.
Thanks, RR
2007-09-27 11:29:22 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 3⤋