Christians what do u think of the concept of original sin, and that women were cursed with child birth?

Question

Usually questions posted, question the morlity of islams attitude towards women. So lets look at Chritianity, just 2 concepts, we can go into biblical rape laws and murder, rape, plunder later.
Original Sin, in Christianity all children are born Sinful, whereas in Islam children are born free of sin. Christians, do unbatised children who die go to hell? in Islam all children who die before puberty go to heaven. Christians why did women get 'cursed' with giving birth?, why is there more guilt on eve. than Adam? and why did women get cursed because of a sin commited by Adam and Eve, but one which Eve was made scapegoat by your god

Answer 1

I can see that what your about is twisting the scripture and trying to make them say what you want in order to justify your guilt and your life.

The bible says in Romans 3:10 that not one is good no not even one.
What God dd for us was unconditional love His Son died on the cross while we were an enemy of God.
Would you die for your enemy?
This was done so that we would and could have salvation Gods way of bridging the gap between man and God.

We now have access to God through Jesus Christ, for forgiveness of sins.

by Gods grace and mercy we can have eternal life.

Wow what a gift.....did I mention its free....the price has already been payed all we have to do is ask, thats it

Romans 10:9-13

9) That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
10) For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved.
11) As the Scripture says, "Anyone who trusts in him will never be put to shame.
12) For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile—the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him,
13) for, "Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved

Answer 2

"in Christianity all children are born Sinful" - incorrect, sorry. All are born into sin, not all are born sinful. Ask any doctor and he'll say the same - we are born with our parents problems. It's genetics. Sure a kid would be perfect, if he didn't have two parents that sinned.

"do unbatised children who die go to hell" - no. Baptism is a public announcement of a private thing, and that is the decision to follow Christ. You can't make that decision until you are "of age" ... generally considered to occur between 8 and 11 years of age. That "unbaptised children go to hell" thing is something the Catholics made up, it has nothing to do with Christianity.

"Christians why did women get 'cursed' with giving birth" - we are not cursed with giving birth, we have pain in our labor. Ask any new mother if she felt "cursed" giving birth. Even the pain is precious when you give birth, and we willingly suffer it for that beautiful baby.

"why is there more guilt on eve. than Adam" - there isn't. They both sinned and all sin in the eyes of Allah/Jehovah/God is blackness.

"and why did women get cursed because of a sin commited by Adam and Eve" - again, who said we were cursed? Women are more blessed because they CAN give birth, or perhaps you've never experienced a pregnancy, your own or some woman you know.

Btw, a scapegoat is someone who is blamed for what everyone else did, but in this case, Eve actually did do it. And Adam got kicked out too, in case you've forgotten. Oh, and also ... He's your God too.

Answer 3

First of all women weren't cursed with child birth, we were cursed with the pain but the miracle of having a baby takes all of that away.

Second of all, all children are not born sinful they are born into sin but they themselves have not sinned.

Third of all children do not go to hell if they die. when a child is old enough to know the difference between right and wrong is when they can be judged.

Fourth of all both Adam and Eve were punished for their sins both of them were to blame as they each had a choice in the decisions they made.

Fifth of all giving birth once again is not a curse, and Eve wasn't a scapegoat, she actually committed a sin and had to pay for it.

Answer 4

1 God Allah....All the same My God Your God Same God
God is God no more no less
2 No Child goes to Hell EVER. Not until You are old enough to truly understand the difference between good and evil can you go to Hell, that leaves innocent children out of it.
3 Scapegoat? Hey You ever hear of the concept of FREE WILL? Where was God twisting Eve's arm telling Her to eat the fruit from the Tree Of Life? I must have missed that part.
Eve screwed up and cursed women forevermore all on Her own leave God out of it.
4 Adam didn't listen to Satan, Eve did simple as that.
5 The first hard lesson mankind ever learned. Some mistakes never go away.
Thank You the score so far is...
Me 1
You 0

Answer 5

Yes, the Bible teaches we all are born sinful.
Do unbaptized babies go to hell?
Yes.
However, do not think for a second, hell is a place of fiery torment, where souls burn.
If you thought that, you would be confusing Christianity with christendom.
Christendom has been about the worst representative Christianity ever had.
The Bible does not teach a burning hell of torment.
Hell is the grave. Non-existence.
Woman was not 'cursed' with giving birth.
You may be referring to the fact God let increase the difficulty of childbearing.
Woman is not more guilty than man. Quite the opposite.
Please look at 1 Timothy 2:14
"Adam was not deceived, but the woman was thoroughly deceived."
Eve was tricked, but Adam rebelled.
That's why Roman 5:12 says
"through one man sin entered into the world."
Not through one woman.

Answer 6

Islam teaches a hell of torment. The Bible teaches hell as the common grave, Sheol, and Hades. This is an unconscious not being.

The dead person has been written into the books of Sheol and Hades and will on judgment day either be resurrected or be thrown into the figurative garbage dumb Gehenna -- nonexistence for all time. See the two links below on that subject:
http://bythebible.page.tl/Judgment-%26-Sheol.htm
http://bythebible.page.tl/1-.--Dead__the-condition-of--.---.---.--.htm
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You are wrong on the issue of Eve being the guiltier party. The Bible teaches that she was tricked totally -- thus she was somewhat innocent. It also teaches that Adam willfully sinned, this is why Paul says that through Adam death entered the world!

Original sin link:
http://bythebible.page.tl/Jesus-And-Moses.htm

Answer 7

Eve was not cursed with giving birth. She was cursed to feel pain in giving birth. Get your facts straight.

Noone deserves the love and grace of God. We earn it.

There is not more guilt on Eve. Look at the curse of Adam, and his is pretty bad too. Then they have the pain on their sin going onto the next generation, with Cain and Abel. Once again, get your facts straight.

No, children do not go to Hell if they are not baptised. Once again, get your facts straight.

If this is what you have been told about Christianity, then you have been misinformed.

Answer 8

The answer to your question is found in Genesis chapter 3. yes, that is what the bible says. I don;t know how you missed that! The Quran often refers to Jews and Christian as People of The Book. "The Book" is The Law and The Prophets for the Jews and the Old Testament for the Christiana. ISLAM IS ALSO BASED ON THE BOOK! We all share a common ancestor -- Father Abraham, and all those who went before him, right back to Adam. Not only that, but there are multiple times that The Quran testifies that "all that was written before is God's Word". Allah himself ALSO testifies that He caused The Word to be written, and even Mohammed (pbuh) states that ALL that went before is the correct and incorruptible Word of God. Therefore, The Quran, Mohammed, and Allah Himself tell you that what is written in the Book of Genesis is true and incorruptible FACT. Therefore, the statement of Genesis Chapter 3 MUST be true, and it does indeed state that woman's punishment for breaking God's Rules will be pain in childbirth, AND she will have an instinctive need for the guidance and wisdom of her husband. WOMEN get off easy! For the man's punishment, the very ground was cursed, and no longer grows bountiful food by itself. The man must work, and work hard, to raise enough food for his growing family. A woman's pain in only during childbirth. a man's pain happens DAILY.

Answer 9

Christians believe that women are blessed with the gift of new life.

You need to find a different Imam.

So Children that kill others before puberty still go to heaven?

Odd.

Christians don't put more guilt on Eve than Adam, come on, Christians and Muslims share the same old Testament don't we?

Peace!

Answer 10

To answer your question about Adam and Eve - God "increased" Eve's pains in childbearing & he also cursed her relationship with her husband.

God also cursed Adam - but he cursed Adam in the work that he does on the earth.

To a woman, love and relationships are at the very core of our being - God was saying we will most feel the pain of sin the greatest in our intimate relationships with our family which will never be full of love and support like they were meant to be in the garden of Eden. We all experience seperation and pain due to our families. It wasn't supposed to be this way!

To a man, respect and usefulness are at the very core of their being. They like to be respected on the job and know that they are making a positive contribution to their family and their workplace and everything they do. That is why God said Adam would most feel the pain of sin in his work - that everything he put his effort in to would ultimately disappoint. He would see his hard work not producting the results that he hoped for - he would find work difficult and painful and tedious and unrewarding. This is not how work was meant to be! We were meant to find satisaction in all that we do & know that the effort we put in to our work would remain estabilshed and strong.

But this is not how it is. Eve is not the scapegoat - Adam, Eve, and the serpent are all to blame. Especially Adam because he was the one in authority. He could have stopped Eve but he did not.

Answer 11

I don't think any Christian would agree with any point you made about Christianity. Original sin does not mean babies are going to hell, it is a recognition of the truth and the fact that all humans need salvation. Adam was punished just as much as eve, you have to read the whole book, not just the parts you want.