These are gross forgeries.
They have been used by anti-Semites, some of whom may not realize that these sayings are made up and do not appear in any Jewish source. They exist primarily on the Web, from which you have cut and pasted.
You should be ashamed of yourself to repeat these lies.
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2007-09-28 02:44:30
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answered by Ivri_Anokhi 6
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You do not know what the Talmud is. Midrash Talpioth is not Talmud, nor are any of those sources. Most are writings and teachings of individuals or groups. However, the Talmud is a codified text completed 1400 years ago containing tractates on various matters. If your goal is to dig up obscure and inconsequential texts that appear racist, than I suppose you have succeeded. You can find all the sources you want, but at the end of the day they mean nothing. There is no case of a Jew killing a gentile for no reason than that he was a gentile and then having any Rabbinic authority support his actions. For every source that teaches hatred of non-Jews, there is a countering source that teaches benevolence. Judaism is not a dogmatic religion, and thus most viewpoints are recorded. Most anti-gentile texts come from periods where Jews were much beset upon by non-Jews, and to help them was to hinder yourself. The main thrust of the religion is not the texts you cited, and the official law does not include any of that. It is certainly wrong to kill a non-Jew, and the law states this plainly. Perhaps if you learn the actual Talmud, you might see your errors.
2007-09-27 08:30:21
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answered by Michael J 5
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Firstly to EMEITA - Oh, so you really, really think that any website called 'Jew-watch' is going to be objective, do you? That site is infamous for its' lies and propoganda.
I too have done an online search and thus far, have been unable to find the passages you quote. I intend to keep on looking.
The truth is that in all of the religious texts - Islamic, Jewish, Christian - there are remarks and passages that if taken out of context, seem to preach hatred.
I've seen many, many posts on this site that quote the Koran as saying terrible things, but I know from the responses of Muslims that these parts have been quoted completely out of context.
Judaism teaches that ALL are equal, no matter what their religion.
And unlike many other faiths, Christianity included, Judaism maintains that all people, again respective of religious beliefs, have a place in the afterlife as long as they lead ethical lives.
2007-09-27 02:54:49
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answered by Anonymous
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You have chosen to post this at a time when religious Jews who would have knowledge on such matters are not online because it is the first day of the Jewish festival of Succoth.
So in their absence, I must simply direct you to look at the website http://www.sacred-texts.com/jud/talmud.htm to see if you can find any of the references there. I searched for a couple of them myself and could not find them, so I suspect that you have been duped by false anti-semitic propaganda.
In any case I can assure you that Jews do not view non-Jews as animals, and that Jews believe in the fundamental right of life for all human beings regardless of race or creed.
Edit: Eimittaa refers to the website jewwatch.com, which anyone with even vaguely open eyes can see is a blatent anti-semitic hate site, including holocaust denial. Please don't get taken in by any of its sinister propaganda. As for Moses Maimonides, it is true that he was one of Judaism's greatest rabbis, but he was a very good man and I have never heard that he said anything like the statements you have listed.
2007-09-26 23:19:12
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answered by Londoner In Israel 3
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Ah yes, these are some of the most common anti-Semitic statements whose origins are ***complete*** misinterpretations of the Talmud, and/or phrases taken ***completely*** out of context. I've put a good website below that will tell you what all of these statements actually mean.
2007-09-27 08:24:26
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answered by Mark S, JPAA 7
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Actually, most of these verses are mistranslations, misinterprtations and some even downright inventions of anti-semitic sources.
Here are some explanations for you:
http://www.rense.com/general21/tal.htm
As for JewWatch, this is a VERY anti-semitic website. there's even a petition circulating to remove it from Google search.
http://www.petitiononline.com/rjw23/petition.html
2007-09-29 15:01:47
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answered by Lovemybabies 2
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Emita the Jew Hater: Others have already pointed out the various lies in your post, but I would like to address the one about the Talmud supposedly being "secret" and not available to non-Jews. The Talmud is abundantly available in English. Naturally, because of its length and consequent cost, it may not be of any GENUINE interest to an anti-Semite.
An English translation of the Talmud can be purchased, for example, here:
http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?bi=0&bx=off&ds=30&prl=250&sortby=2&sts=t&tn=babylonian+talmud&x=70&y=22
http://www.amazon.com/Talmud-Schottenstein-English-COMPLETE-SCHOTTENSTEIN/dp/1578190673/ref=sr_1_1/105-9042920-7124445?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1190925857&sr=1-1
You can also find Talmud in English in a library:
http://catnyp.nypl.org/search?/ttalmud+english/ttalmud+english/1%2C13%2C50%2CB/exact&FF=ttalmud+english&1%2C5%2C/indexsort=-
Or online: http://www.sacred-texts.com/jud/talmud.htm
2007-09-27 09:48:20
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answered by Rеdisca 5
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the talmud cannot be taken out of context like that.
it is a transcribed series of conversations. many points of view were spoken, most were discarded. different rabbis said all kinds of things, but at the end, only when they came to agreement was a law set.
those lines you've taken out of context, i'm not even sure they are real quotes, but even if they are, they are not laws or conclusions, but parts of conversations taken out of context, ideas that were eventually discarded.
2007-09-27 06:03:29
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answered by Anonymous
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Distortion eh? Tsk, tsk.. how desperate of you, or merely an nescient reproduction-paste from a flawed source. very nicely, right here is the place you acquire incorrect- adult males at the instant are not "greater suitable" to women. they are considered as "protectors" of girls. Now, i'm no longer asserting women are vulnerable, yet i'm asserting a woman's husband is the only to guard his spouse. "the guy of the domicile." adult males and ladies at the instant are not equivalent- individual who says it is barely fooling himself. Biology shows us this. in spite of the shown fact that, they are the two considerable for existence- they are companions of one yet another. The Muslim community would desire to no longer "make acquaintances" with the "disbelievers" through fact they have been at conflict with them on the early tiers of Islam. The Muslim community replaced into confronted with a adversarial ecosystem, and their secure practices replaced into very costly subsequently, the warring parties would desire to no longer be depended on. Duh. different than that, you're 'allowed' to be acquaintances with people who're no longer in conflict with you: 60:8 "Allah forbids you no longer, with connection with those that combat you no longer for (your) faith nor stress you out of your residences, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for Allah loveth people who're merely." different verses are merely snipped reproduction-pastes pertaining to battles such through fact the conflict of Uhud, Trench, etc. i won't proceed on with an 'argument' containing lots of incorrect information on Islam. come again once you have real suggestions and information on the Qu'ran quite of distortion from anti-Islamist web content. enable me positioned it merely, in case you haven't any longer taken a direction on the Qu'ran and have not study it completely, then you definately should not be attacking it. the end result? basically making your self look fairly ignorant on the Islamic faith. think of next time. Peace~
2016-10-09 22:04:55
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answered by ? 4
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This is NOT from the Talmud as you well know but it is the Satanic verses from the quaran!
Do you think we would not see past that one you muslim you!
2007-09-29 05:12:28
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answered by Anonymous
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