They say, "well if there was a God, or if God was really loving, He wouldn't have allowed this to happen." You know what I mean?
2007-09-26 16:56:58 · 34 answers · asked by melissa 5 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
I don't think anyone "deserves" the punishment, but negative consequences are often the natural effect of doing something stupid. If you get drunk and get behind the wheel of a car, there's a good a chance you're gonna crash. There's a good chance you could die. I don't understand how people expect God to be their magic man and pull them out of these situations that clearly violate His wil.
2007-09-26 17:12:28 · update #1
Maybe all of us should assume we really don't know what goes on in His thinking since He says His ways are bigger than are ways and His thoughts are higher than our thoughts..I would assume since we are not gods,we don't have the right to talk as if we know Him...I just realized that,,I was doing that alot but I don't know Him I know of His love but I surely don't know all His ways...
2007-09-26 17:00:38 · answer #1 · answered by I give you the Glory Father ! 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Mostly it boils down to this. If God exists, and he really IS omnipotent...when he made Adam and Eve he would have KNOWN that Eve would have been tempted and eaten the forbidden fruit.
Instead, the Bible makes it seem like he's all surprised when she does, and then he punishes the rest of humanity for a mistake the first humans made? That doesn't seem right.
Women have to bear painful childbirth, and men have to toil the land for food. And if it's REALLY free will...we should have been judged individually, not because of what the first humans did to disobey him.
Instead, he keeps making humans who keep making the wrong decisions...and then floods the earth killing off most of them. Then later he says sorry, makes a rainbow appear, and then makes another human...this time his son...and lets us kill his son to prove he loves us? It doesn't make sense to me.
Free will to me means that Jesus shouldn't have been a scapegoat...and that if I do something wrong -I- should pay for it. Not someone else. I understand the whole "God is just and has to have payment for our sins to let us into Heaven" argument...but I don't buy it.
To me that just proves God is as clueless about humanity's progress into the future as we are when we have children. No amount of teaching, scolding, or caring can EVER lead to a certain path in life being followed.
2007-09-26 17:13:29 · answer #2 · answered by Kailee 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Perhaps they have a problem with those dumb decisions when they involve the victimization of an innocent child. A child sold into the sex slave world and then murdered certainly could never be accused of being the one to make the "dumb decision" that caused their suffering. What kind of god would answer a prayer to help heal one person and then turn his back on an innocent life? God, however, is all-knowing and knows what will happen even if you have free will. If he knows a child is going to suffer a terrible death even worse than that of poor Jesus and lets it happen in order to celebrate his own creation of free will then he has a funny way of showing his love. If it were all true then it would certainly be a cruel experiment.
2007-09-26 17:16:53 · answer #3 · answered by Sketch 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Misery in the world does not exist becaue of God. Misery exists because of mankind's desire to rule over his fellowman at every level, from politics to religion--there is someone telling you what you can or cannot do. When someone takes a step back and questions the legitimacy of the authority coming from the person that is speaking something he says came from God, that religious person gets threatened and gets his politician to pass another law. Laws are passed to appease Christians and other do-gooders because they want everyone else to live a life just as miserable as theirs. If there were no religions insistant that they were the only voice of God, there would be fewer problems in this world today. It's been over two thousand years since santa-jesus left, get over yourselves already!
2007-09-26 17:03:10 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Because God made us in his Image.Therefore we are like him like a reflection in a mirror. We feel all of his emotions. If he never felt Hate, Greed, Lust and the rest of those awful sins, then how could they exist to begin with? Satan? Satan is just his alter ego, just as all of us have alter egos. According to the Bible, Satan tricks and fools. The entire Bible itself tricks and fools us. We are always wondering if what we do is really right or wrong. Who wrote all the parts of the Bible and why? Who gave them the authority? Who's to say that the Church of Elvis or Kurt Cobain and the subsequent "Bible" won't exist hundreds of years from now and that people won't be following like blind sheep?
The world is cruel because God is cruel. I as a person am cruel or have been cruel yet I detest it. If I had the power, I would try to make a perfect world as would The Almighty God.
2007-09-26 17:15:52 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
"Free will" is just a way for believers to explain away many of the contradictions about their God. Because it's true -- a loving God wouldn't allow half of the stuff that goes on to ever occur, and if he gave us free will to make decisions on our own, then how can he ever punish us for using it, especially since he already knows what choices we're going to make?
2007-09-26 17:11:44 · answer #6 · answered by Cap'n Zeemboo 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Some of the most brilliant philosophers in the history of the world have pondered the idea of "free will" vs. an omnipotent God...
...and they didn't really get anywhere.
It appears to be a total catch-22 unless you do some serious redefining or manipulation of the ideas of God and/or "free will."
2007-09-26 16:59:58 · answer #7 · answered by Buying is Voting 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I know people asked on 9-11 were was your god well i say my god was helping those people who crashed the plan before it made it to its target to over power the terorist. Did you know that the people on one of those plans actually made phone calls to family and their family said they were as calm as could be not scared nothing just told them goodbye thats were my god was many other places to that day but people do need to realize that god does not rewards ignorence or disobedience not saying anything bad or that the people in 9-11 were disobedint or ignorent just some people need to examine theirselves before they go bashing my DADDY!
2007-09-26 17:06:33 · answer #8 · answered by ltw5121 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I don't have a problem with God letting humans make mistakes which they can then learn from. That's the best way to learn sometimes.
What I have a problem with is that God does not actually tell us the rules himself, leaving us in the dark about what they are, and that when humans dare exercise free will and make mistakes, God will punish them eternally even though most people don't even realize they are making said mistakes...
2007-09-26 17:01:34 · answer #9 · answered by Rin 4 · 3⤊ 1⤋
Awesome question...We as human-beings find so much comfort in finding someone to blame for the shocking awful and some times painful situations that we put ourselves in...Notice I say put ourselves in....Because we would have to look face to face at ourselves and admit that Hey...I put myself here and that hurts deeper than anything else..Free-will is an amazing gift and that is how God decides who is truly his..choosing christ is un-popular...costs you more sometimes than you want to pay....Just as it did christ himself and he still suffered more..Without Free - will we would all become common decievers and liars who would try to pull the wool over even God's eyes...Free will is a condition of the heart and we can in noway hide our hearts from God...our decisions will never be his fault because he has already paved the way for us to wise up and make the right decisions....
2007-09-27 07:53:45 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋