True or False?: Regarding the "corresponing ransom" Jesus paid , the Watchtower Society teaches that human...?

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life Jesus laid down in sacrifice was exactly equal to the human life Adam fell with.

Achtung: The Greek text solidly militates against the Watchtower understanding of 1 Tim 2:6

"Corresponding ransom in the sense of "no more no less" as the Watchtower argues, is reading more to the this word antilutron than is really there

2Q&Learn: I understand that the Society teaches that Jesus is said to have given his life as a ransom ONLY for those sins that we inherited from Adam. So you do not think that Jesus died for personal sins? Is that why you want to win an approval of God by deeds and by total submission to the Watchtower society?

Moises: Your ransom is paid full by a perfect Jesus Christ who is our Lord and Savior. And you consider this overpayment for your sins or do you think that He died for your sins, you cannot accpt this from God Jesus, but you can accept this from a man Jesus. ? You rather try to make it by works and by submitting to your organization?

Keiichi: You must talk about your translation NWT. It is a known fact that the NWT translators were not formally trained on biblical languages

Unsilenced Lamb: Yes, He indeed is the " Alpha and Omega"
Rev 1:8 and 22:13 say Jesus is Jehovah-God

TeeM: Related to Christ's role as Mediator is His role as Saviro. A study of the OT indicates that it is only God who saves.
Read Isaiah 43:11 where God assrets "I , even I, am the Lord, and apart from me there is no savior"

This is extrememly important verse because it indicates that a claim to be Savior is, indeed in itself, a claim of deity and there is only one Savior-God. NT refers to Jesus as the Savior, so we can be certain that He has divine nature

Answer 1

True.

Jehovah's Witnesses teach that Adam was created as a perfect human and through deliberate sin, he passed on imperfection to all his descendants.
According to their teachings, the only way to fairly return mankind to perfection was to repay the debt Adam had created with the sacrifice of a perfect human life.
To repay the debt, Jesus took the form of a human. Being the only perfect human, he was the only candidate to repay this debt. Jehovah's Witnesses believe that in death, Jesus opened to way for repentant humans to become perfect.
When I was a Jehovah's Witness I often heard it explained in an analogy using a pair of old fashioned balance scales (the same a 'Justice' is suppose to hold). Adam's perfect human life prior to sin, could only be balanced by Jesus in human form. One of the publications even has a diagram depicting Jesus one side of the scales and Adam on the other, perfectly balancing each other.

Answer 2

It is not what JW's say, it is what Paul told us.

(1 Corinthians 15:20-21) 20 However, now Christ has been raised up from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep [in death]. 21 For since death is through a man, resurrection of the dead is also through a man.



(1 Corinthians 15:45) . . .The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.



(1 Corinthians 15:47) 47 The first man is out of the earth and made of dust; the second man is out of heaven.

Since Paul tells us, then it must be true.

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Answer 3

True and the bible says so.

Antilutron - Greek Lexicon
what is given in exchange for another as the price of his redemption

The Ransom was a man.

"the man Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all "

New Topic: EVE

The Bible says that sin entered the world through one man—not through the woman—even though Eve sinned first and led her husband into rebellion against God.

Rom 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned

Answer 4

of direction you will be born lower back. that's basically that it demands dying FIRST. the dominion of God is in heaven and flesh and blood won't be able to enter heaven as 1Corinthians 15:50 evidently says. So JWs or no longer, there maintains to be that dying area. No getting around that.

Answer 5

Interestingly, 1 Timothy 2:6 contains the only occurrence of a particular Greek term ("antilutron") which many bibles oversimplify into English as merely "ransom". By contrast, a less specific Greek term ("lutron") is used in other bible verses and is almost universally translated as "ransom".

If Scriptures such as Matthew 20:28 and Mark 10:45 refer merely to the fact that Christ provided a ransom (a "lutron"), what additional point was Paul making by his use of "antilutron" which might seem literally to mean "preceding ransom"? Readers are invited to contrast the two different Strong's citations, shown. In both citations here, the emphasis is NOT added, but is Strong's.

G487 ἀντίλυτρον antilutron an-til'-oo-tron ...a REDEMPTION PRICE
G3083 λύτρον lutron loo'-tron ...something to LOOSEN with, that is, a redemption PRICE (figuratively ATONEMENT)


The latter term makes the point that Christ's life was of value and was propitiatory (or "atoning"). The prior, more specific, term makes the additional point that Christ's life was a "redemption price". Please consider that the nature of the term "redemption" seems rather plainly to indicate corresponding value.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/redemption
[quote] re·demp·tion –noun
5.repurchase, as of something sold.
6.paying off, as of a mortgage, bond, or note.
7.recovery by payment, as of something pledged.
8.conversion of paper money into specie.
[unquote]


Here is 1 Timothy 2:5-6, from a selection of translations...

Douay-Rheims Bible
For there is one God, and one mediator of God and men, the man Christ Jesus: Who gave himself a redemption for all

Weymouth New Testament
For there is but one God and but one Mediator between God and men--Christ Jesus, Himself man; who gave Himself as the redemption price for all

New World Translation
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus, who gave himself a corresponding ransom for all

Learn more:
http://watchtower.org/e/rq/index.htm?article=article_03.htm
http://watchtower.org/e/lmn/index.htm?article=article_08.htm#_footnote1



Incidentally, Jehovah's Witnesses use multiple legal entities with names similar to "Watchtower Society". It is perhaps more accurate for commentators to point to either "The Watchtower" magazine or simply "Jehovah's Witnesses" as the source of some teaching of interest, rather than pretending that one among dozens of legal entities originates any teaching.

Answer 6

"Regarding the "corresponding ransom"Jesus paid ...

Jesus [life] laid down in sacrifice was exactly equal to the human life Adam [lost]."

Correct.

"Jehovah's perfect justice required 'soul for soul, eye for eye, tooth for tooth.' (Deuteronomy 19:21; Matthew 5:38) Hence, since Adam brought inherited death to all mankind by willfully disobeying God and so losing perfection of human life, another perfect human had to substitute for Adam in paying over his perfect life, to buy back what Adam had lost."

Answer 7

Being that he is the Alpha and the Omega, I think that he over paid the price of humanity.


Jesus as a perfect man could not cover more that the debt of Adam. what about EVE...If Jesus was just...A man,..... there would be a debt for EVE and the rest of humanity...God equalizes all things, and If Jesus were not divine, he would not have been enough sacrifice......Just like the Israelites could not sacrifice enough animals...use your mind not the WBTS mind...

Answer 8

what religion is this? some cult or self belief based of off christianity

Answer 9

uhmm, so if why he have to overpaid? if you have a balance a you put one pound in one side , why you are going to put 100 pounds in the other side to balance , is not logical.

Answer 10

Sorry, but I don't read the tabloids. Which one was it in?