Hi, ok...My fiance is in the Army. Well, He is in GA. right now doing his basic training. He don't graduate until November 07'. He is having trouble doing the requirements. He knew of them when he enlisted. But, he thought he could handle it, but now, that he is actually doing it he is having trouble. Oh, and he did a march on the 20th of this month and messed his hip up and they said that he might get a medical discharge, but if not. He wants out. I need help trying to get him out. 1-He isn't fit for this, 2- He is hurt, 3- This isn't the life for him, 4- He is Epoleptic (However you spell that), but, He didn't tell them that when he enlisted. So far he hasn't had any seizers yet, but im worried about him. If he does end up having a seizer then I don't know what will happen. I told him to tell them that he was epoleptic, but he said he can't because they will get him for false information at enlistment. He has 2 kids that are in foster care, a 3 yr. old boy, and a 5 yr. old girl, that need there daddy, and they are trying to take his rights away because he went in the Army. I can't fight for them because we aren't married yet. I need to get him out of this!!!! Can you help me please? ANYONE?
2007-09-26 09:52:27 · 18 answers · asked by Brittany W 1 in Politics & Government ➔ Military
Without going into all these details ... tell him to NOT pass his PT test. He will go into remedial PT but he should NOT make progress and continue to fail. If he does this he will get chaptered quickly and will not get penalized for it. If he wants out so bad ... that's the very easy way without doing something illegal.
2007-09-26 10:35:27 · answer #1 · answered by Mark W 2 · 0⤊ 5⤋
YOU cannot help him. You guys should have thought about all of this before he joined. Personally, I think he sounds like a loser. Epileptic seizers? Kids in foster care. They cannot take his rights away because he joined. What else is going on that they are taking his rights away?
He needs to tell them about his seizers. If something happens, such as shooting someone by accident during a seizer, he will be responsible.
I do not want him watching my soldiers backs. To much of a risk.
2007-09-26 21:55:47 · answer #2 · answered by Diane 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
If he is epileptic then he should not be in the US armed forces.
If he has siezures he is a danger to himself and others in that environment.
Why did he not tell anyone that he is epileptic? The fact that he didnt means that every time he trains, or even holds a weapon he is putting himself at risk or more importantly others at risk "gee I didnt mean to drop that live grenade I had a siezure."
Why did he have siezures to begin with? Was it due to alcohol or drug use? If so then he will more than likely not have any more if he stays away from drugs and alcohol.
You know all that aside he could more than likely make it through training if he reattached his balls and didnt complain. That can be especially hard for some people I guess.
Also based on the background information you provided he needs to invest in condoms, or get a vasectomy.
2007-09-26 17:03:12 · answer #3 · answered by h h 5 · 9⤊ 0⤋
Isn't he a grown man? I am sure he can get himself out of his predicament without your help!
I can tell who will be wearing the pants in your marriage!
do you really think that WE are stupid?
"Kids in foster care"? If the Army knows that he has children, They would have required a child care plan (ie: grandparents, ex-spouse, relatives) to take care of the children, , before he can even start BCT!
It sounds like someone is a wussy! and realizes that the military in not a game or just an easy paycheck!
and the reality of going to war in Iraq!
2007-09-26 17:16:20 · answer #4 · answered by Johnny D' Venison 3 · 5⤊ 0⤋
Did you know of his medical conditions and children BEFORE he enlisted??
I find it hard to believe with all the medical problems he has that the Army hasn't caught on; they go through a full physical before even signing their contracts and I'm almost positive they go over his medical records.
He's US Government property; he has no rights. (I don't mean that literally, but I think you get what I'm saying)
2007-09-26 17:59:58 · answer #5 · answered by Oki 1 · 3⤊ 0⤋
Sounds like a soap opera if ever I heard one; If he throws a seizure they will throw him out providing he isn't charged with making false statements regarding his medical condition. Rather than drawing a medical discharge he just might get a 'Other Than Honorable Conditions' Discharge.
If you really love this guy then I highly suggest to you that he take his dumb ass down to the Chapel and talk to Chaplin Charlie about his true medical condition. Chaplin Charlie is the only person there who won't have a cow and help your friend to get out of his situation.
Tell your friend that he needs to tell them that his mind went silly on him and he believed he could handle it, but he can't!
He needs to disclose to truth about his condition before they find out about themselves. If you dime yourself then they can't use it against you, but if they discover it then you're toast.
2007-09-26 17:09:36 · answer #6 · answered by oscarsix5 5 · 2⤊ 0⤋
HE LIED TO GET IN!!! they WILL find out and you can bet your bippy that he will lose any and all benefits, whatinhell was he thinking, risking his life and potentially the lives of his fellow soldiers by failing to disclose his epilepsy?!
Did he lie about having the kids too, Cuz that is ALSO Grounds for fraudulent enlistment.
he doesn't DESERVE anything but a Fraudulent enlistment discharge and I hope they nail him for it.
2007-09-26 17:11:27 · answer #7 · answered by Mrsjvb 7 · 6⤊ 0⤋
I'm sorry, but the Army is the only thing standing between your fiance and a normal life. I'm surprised they let him in with his epilepsy. REALLY surprised. I didn't realize our nation was so hard up for volunteers.
What was he doing enlisting in the first place? It's wartime. If he can't handle basic, then what on earth will happen to him in Iraq? Or Afghanistan? I'd worry, but mostly I'd pray. If you have a religion or belief in a Higher Power, get on your knees and PRAY.
I'm surprised he passed the initial physical. What on earth were they thinking?
2007-09-26 17:02:01 · answer #8 · answered by Serena 7 · 4⤊ 2⤋
Don't be his Mommy. The military will either whip him into shape, or get rid of him. If he lied about his medical condition, that may be enough to get tossed out. Perhaps he should have done his homework and looked into this a little more before he signed his name on the dotted line.
2007-09-26 17:22:00 · answer #9 · answered by ♥♥Mrs SSG B♥♥ 6 · 5⤊ 0⤋
YOU cant get him out..and as for him lying about his epilepsy they can discharge him wether it be honorable or dishonorable...he probably wont get any disability benefits b/c he lied...the military doesnt care wether he hurt his hip in basic, my brother broke his fingers and still had to go through with the rest of basic training, if your fiance doesnt want to go through with it then tell him to do really bad in basic so he wont be able to graduate...the military isnt for everyone and it's alot harder than most people think...they think oh the benefits are great, yeah okay, what benefits? my husband is an infantryman in iraq risking his life every day and for what? free dental, free health care, no tax at the commissary and px....that's not benefits, it's compensation....but anyway this isnt about my life....your future hubby will get discharged for being epileptic if it gets found out....you can try for disability afterwards but i highly doubt it only b/c he lied....
2007-09-26 17:21:49 · answer #10 · answered by infantry_wife 3 · 4⤊ 1⤋
Mark W has given you the right answer.It will take time, and be painfull. but it will work.
But he could make it through Basic he's just not motivated.
10 yrs Army 15 yrs out.
don't get caught out on the Epileptic thing, Big Trouble
2007-09-26 17:52:26 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 1⤋