Why don't you want to get saved?
Why do you want to spend the eternity in torment? why do you choose eternal torture? God is giving you a way out, it is easy, repent, accept Jesus as your Lord and savior and you won't have to go to hell.
Why do you want to spend eternity suffering? eternity is a long time..................
2007-09-26 08:28:40 · 64 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
and you rather spend eternity being tortured?
2007-09-26 08:31:48 · update #1
Because God doesn't exist. God is a superstition.
Nobody gets saved from anything. We all die eventually and end up equally dead. There is no eternal torment. There is no Jesus to accept. Jesus, if he existed, is a dead guy.
I feel sorry that such superstitions torment you. You have all of this angst for nothing about people being tormented after death. Instead of living your life well now, you're wasting it in such worry about what, if anything, comes afterward.
This is yet another way that religion harms society.
2007-09-26 08:30:49 · answer #1 · answered by nondescript 7 · 14⤊ 3⤋
I would take it if it were free, but it isn't.
There are far too many strings attached. First of all, I have to give up everything I know about the laws of Physics and Geology and Medicine, and believe without proof that a God exists. Then, I have to form a relationship with this God, even though there is nothing coming back. Then I have to be willing to join him in heaven, while he tortures my family members, and spent the rest of time praising him, while my kids roll in pain and suffering because he decided that eternal torture was a just punishment for non belief.
That isn't free.
2007-09-26 08:33:18 · answer #2 · answered by ɹɐǝɟsuɐs Blessed Cheese Maker 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Why does it bother you so much?
after years of catholic schooling and logical thought, I arrived at a conclusion: there cannot be a god. as such, why would I accept jesus as my personal savior? there is nothing to be saved from.
just remember: being judgemental is unchristian
Edit: Jesus did exist. we have documents from Roman times regarding the execution of a man known as Jesus of Nazerith.
He was just another candidate for the nuthouse. Not the son of God.
Also, is there some sort of drinking game going on here? if so, could someone post a link to the rules?
2007-09-26 08:41:42 · answer #3 · answered by Darkwolf 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Saved from what?
There is no hell, god, or pink pixies that are going to come and punish me for not annoying the crap out of my neighbors with chick tracts and long-winded speeches about spending an eternity talking about Jesus.
I'll spend my eternity the same way I did before I was born... not existing.
2007-09-26 08:34:40 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
I don't understand why you don't believe in the thousands of other gods dreamed up?
What if the god that really exists sends all good people to heaven and all bad people to hell except people who pretended to know for a fact another god existed? then all good atheists are going to heaven but YOU ARE GOING STRAIGHT TO HELL. Why not repent when you still have time? Why risk eternity in hell?
And how can you worship a sadistic god that tortures good people - most of the people who ever lived - for all eternity?
Pascal's wager:
"If god exists, it's infinitely better to believe, since you get heaven instead of hell for eternity. If he doesn't, it doesn't matter since you're dead anyway. So overall it's better to believe"
This is, of course, false.
Some of the problems with the argument:
* The implied assumption that god may exist (with a 50% probability, no less!)
* The assumption that there is an afterlife with a heaven and hell
* The assumption that the god cares about belief in him/her above all else
* The assumption that if you believe in a god, it will definitely be the same god that actually exists.
* The assumption that you lose nothing if it's false. You have lost a great deal, from time praying to a nonexistent entity (some people pray several hours a day!!!) to morality (your god may ask you to hurt other people) and much more besides.
* The assumption that people can believe in something simply because it benefits them. Would you believe goblins exist for twenty bucks? Why not?
* The assumption that any god won't see through the "believing just to get into heaven" ploy.
For more:
http://www.abarnett.demon.co.uk/atheism/wager.html
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/pascal-wager/
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/theism/wager.html
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Nobody has ever provided any evidence that any gods, much less a specific god, exist. People believe in specific gods because of indoctrination from an early age, tradition, hallucinations, fear of torture (for gods sadistic enough to threaten it) and other similarly illogical reasons. But no gods exist in reality; these are all stories, created for people who were scared of the world long before we understood it. Now we have no more reason for these superstitions.
What's the harm in religion:
http://www.abarnett.demon.co.uk/atheism/harm.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_religion
How harmful the bible is in particular:
http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/
http://www.evilbible.com/
The origin of the Jesus stories:
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcpa5.htm
http://www.near-death.com/experiences/origen048.html
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcpa2.htm
http://www.geocities.com/paulntobin/jesus.html
How illogical religion is in general:
http://godisimaginary.com/
http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/
The alternative:
http://www.religioustolerance.org/
http://www.infidels.org/
http://www.positiveatheism.org/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unitarian_Universalism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secular_humanism
2007-09-26 08:36:12 · answer #5 · answered by Dreamstuff Entity 6 · 2⤊ 1⤋
I am not an atheist but I don't accept a free gift from God unless it is God giving it to me.
It seems it is Christians trying to sell the "free gift" idea to me. Which isn't actually FREE at all. It comes with SERIOUS strings attached.
Since I do not believe it is true that God screwed up to begin with and we are not "fallen" or "doomed", I have no use for the free gift.
2007-09-26 08:35:27 · answer #6 · answered by pixie_pagan 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
The clue to your answer is in the question.
If you do not believe, then why would you be interested in learning a load of fictional junk written by mortals over HUNDREDS of years.
To make it easy for you to understand, if you didn't believe that fairies lived at the bottom of your garden and I maintained that they did - BUT you had to embrace the fairy bible and repent of your non-fairy/pixie ways and embrace the Lord of the fairies to prevent the other inevitable eternal torture and damnation (nice pixies huh?) in Fairy Hell. ........would you?
Or would you just think the entire exercise nothing more than a fantastic waste of time, effort and resources ?
When you can explain to me, how I can convince you to completely believe in fairies and pixies - and to make them a part of your life, then I might be better able to tell you how to make belive in your fantasy.
Mark
2007-09-26 08:38:04 · answer #7 · answered by Mark T 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
You 'really' don't understand?
I suggest I can draw two possible conclusions:
a) You do understand, and are fed up by being made to look like a superstitious buffoon by atheists using dirty tricks like logic to rubbish your belief system that provides you the comfort of magic happy endings to bolster your mental laziness and fragile ego.
or
b) life is just a bit too complicated for you, and you should ask grown ups for help if you need to use scissors.
2007-09-26 08:34:49 · answer #8 · answered by dust 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋
it isn't "free"! read the bible.... it says the cost is extremely high.... atheists don't just believe what they are told, they research it.... and frequently find that christians are disingenuous !!
From luke 14
25 ¶ And there went great multitudes with him: and he turned, and said unto them,
26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
27 And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple.
28 For which of you, intending to build a tower, sitteth not down first, and counteth the cost, whether he have sufficient to finish it?
29 Lest haply, after he hath laid the foundation, and is not able to finish it, all that behold it begin to mock him,
30 Saying, This man began to build, and was not able to finish.
31 Or what king, going to make war against another king, sitteth not down first, and consulteth whether he be able with ten thousand to meet him that cometh against him with twenty thousand?
32 Or else, while the other is yet a great way off, he sendeth an ambassage, and desireth conditions of peace.
33 So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple.
2007-09-26 08:37:48 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
I would never want to worship any god that threatened me with an eternity in torment just because I didn't worship him.
The biblical god is a malevolent,evil tyrant.You only have to read the bible to see that.
That would,of course,be assuming that he actually existed.
2007-09-26 08:34:19 · answer #10 · answered by darwinsfriend AM 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
How do you know that we would be spending eternity suffering or tortured? Were you an Atheist who died and experienced this and than was reborn a Christian? I think not. Do not judge what you do not know. Respect us and our beliefs and we will respect yours. Stop pushing!!!!
2007-09-26 08:48:25 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋