ATHEISTS: Why do you carry on about being persecuted when you CHOOSE to be atheists?

Question

You actively choose to believe that there are no gods and that anyone who thinks that you're wrong is obviously uneducated, so why don't you realize that any persecution that you have to endure as a result of the path that you have chosen is nobody else's fault but your own?

Comrade - I thought that atheism was a lack of belief/non-belief, what happened to that?

Elliot - Very nice. You're a typical atheist; you can't think of a valid answer to my question, so you have to twist the words around and ask me a nonsensical quesiton instead.

undir- I -EXPECT- to be persecuted because I -CHOOSE- to follow Jesus instead of the world; that's the difference.

Answer 1

It seems to me atheist don't know how to say they need help.

Answer 2

NOBODY should be persecuted for what they believe in (or don't believe in)! As long as they are not harming anyone else they should have the liberty to believe whatever makes the most sense to them.

I believe EVERYONE should have that right, not only Christians or whatever religion is in the majority in each country.

For your information, I didn't "choose" to be an atheist. I've just never thought the whole religion thing made any sense and I can't believe in something that seems completely illogical and irrational to me.

I could "pretend" to be something I'm not, but why should I have to? It's the persecutors who are narrow-minded and wish to dictate the way other people live their lives while not really having any right to do that.

I'll keep fighting against imbeciles who think persecution is ok and claim everyone has a free choice while trying to force everyone to make the same choice. If all religious practices were suddenly banned, would that still give you "free choice" to practice whatever religion you want?

Ask yourself this question: What if the tables will be turned one day and you'll suddenly be the one being persecuted? Will you just stop believing what you believe and adjust to the majority? Or will you wish you had given them a reason to treat you with respect and grant you the right to be true to yourself?

Answer 3

So when exactly did you choose not to believe in faeries?

And when did you decide that it's okay to persecute people as long as it's for something they choose?


What I'm trying to point out is firstly that people don't choose to be atheists, and an atheist cannot simply choose to believe in a god. And secondly that the fact someone chooses to do something does not mean it's their own fault if they're persecuted. I mean seriously, you either haven't thought about this or you're a pretty awful person. What about dissidents in China and Russia? They actually do have a choice whether or not to voice their dissent, does that mean it's nobody's fault but their own if they're murdered?

So the reason I didn't give you a simple answer is because your question is based on two false assertions, and by explaining why they're false I assumed you would no longer expect an answer. I mean, it's just common sense.
I think that about covers it, but if you still can't find a "valid answer" in there, then feel free to email me about it.

Answer 4

I have news for you. Ever heard of an "inalienable right"? Well, it so happens that the one at the very top of the totem pole is the inalienable right of every human being to be the owner of his own mind, and the master of his OWN thinking and believing. You have the right to believe whatever the heck you choose to, and no other person has the right to persecute YOU for it. That means that whether you like it or not, approve of it or not, agree with it or not, ALLLL the other three hundred and fifty million citizens of this country (or thereabouts) have that exact same right. That includes all those who do NOT happen to share your personal belief system, or for that matter any religous belief system at all.

The right to, and the ability to choose what to believe or not believe is NOT a "fault" as you imply. It is what it is, a RIGHT, and I don't get why you don't realize that.

Answer 5

We only feel persecuted because you say your religion is so full of love and tolerance, but yet the some of the followers seem to fail in showing it.
I think the true people who get persecuted is the lovely people of LBGT. They have copped enough flak your going to hell cause you lay with another man. What rubbish, if you are so sure your God is all about love and peace then why should he care who or what the package is, as long as it is true love he should not care. As they are doing the right thing, they are showing love.They only want acceptance and not to be ridiculed by Holy Roller Extremists.

Answer 6

"You actively choose to believe that there are no gods"
NO! NO! NO!
I do not CHOOSE not to believe in gods; there just aren't any.
I’ve found it impossible to understand let alone to believe that such invisible sky things existed.
I looked all over the place for nearly half a century - I found NO evidence although I found MASSES and MASSES of evidence to support the fact there aren't any.

Look, prayers don't get answered or every child on the planet would be safe with enough to eat.
I'm sure your 'god' has received plenty of prayers asking for this to happen.
People on both sides are still dying in Iraq.
I'm sure adequate prayers have been offered up to 'god' asking for this to stop.
There is NO evidence to support belief in an invisible sky guy.

However I can understand that you do so; it's all, and only, because of FEAR - 'god' has a gun to your head and he's telling you to love him and suck up to him or he's gonna send you to hell.
Sorry, I just don't buy that - that is not the type of 'god' I'd ever feel comfortable with - he sounds far too much like a sadistic person to me.

So, I don't choose to be atheist - I just choose not to be threatened and become paranoid by something that isn't there.
I just don't know how you do it.
How do you fake this stuff?
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Answer 7

Funny, I've never felt persecuted. However, the right-wing media loves to characterize atheists as "unpatriotic" and "poor Americans." Given the source of such comments (neo-fascist morons like Rush), they're pretty easy to ignore.
Any belief is a choice, dude. That includes Christianity.

Answer 8

The persecution we have to endure? Sorry, the Constitution of the United States says something different. If you feel you have the right to persecute those who don't follow your hollow religion, then we have the right to fight back. I just choose to not believe in myths, you choose to be an oppressive bigot.

Answer 9

Well, that's quite a strange, unsupportable notion.

Would you have told the slaves "you choose to dislike slavery, so any persecution that you have to endure as a result of slavery is nobody else's fault but your own?".

Consider the argument you used to cover your thinly veiled threat to have now been reduced to the absurdity that it is.
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"Elliot - Very nice. You're a typical atheist; you can't think of a valid answer to my question, so you have to twist the words around and ask me a nonsensical quesiton instead."

Elliot's answer was a valid response to your question. Perhaps you're not bright enough to have understood it, but you shouldn't let your own shortcomings cause you to make childish insults in public. It's very unbecoming, and hurts whatever cause you're working on.

Answer 10

I don't think that atheists are being 'persecuted', and I have never heard of any atheist claiming to be persecuted... so his question looks very much like a 'red herring', to me. However... I think it is very interesting that your question implies that you think that the persecution of people who do not agree with you is justified... EXACTLY the kind of thinking that led to the Inquisition, witch burnings, the christian holocaust against the native populations in Central and South America, and innumerable other atrocities.

http://www.askwhy.co.uk/christianity/0780Bookburning.php

OK... I'm afraid of you. You have obviously forgotten to renew your prescription. Please see to that immediately.

"[Christians...] claim that they are being persecuted because they are not allowed to force me to practice what they do." ~ D. Dale Gulledge
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Answer 11

I don't feel persecuted. Rational thought makes me what I am, and I don't choose to be anything.

If, by persecuted, you mean looked down upon by religious, not all look down upon me. Those that do typically are the "follow without question" types, and their opinion of me really means nothing. If someone can't think for themselves, I'm not going to sweat it if they don't like my opinion.