The Catholic Church claims it is the truest fullest Christian Church.
The Catholic Church also teaches about Non-Catholic Christian churches:
Furthermore, many elements of sanctification and of truth are found outside the visible confines of the Catholic Church: the written Word of God; the life of grace; faith, hope, and charity, with the other interior gifts of the Holy Spirit, as well as visible elements.
Christ's Spirit uses these Churches and ecclesial communities as means of salvation, whose power derives from the fullness of grace and truth that Christ has entrusted to the Catholic Church.
All these blessings come from Christ and lead to him.
For more information, see the Catechism of the Catholic Church, section 819: http://www.usccb.org/catechism/text/pt1sect2chpt3art9p3.htm#819
With love in Christ.
2007-09-26 17:59:56
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answered by imacatholic2 7
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I was raised catholic and went to Protestant and Evangelical churches for years.
There are many decent people in these places and in some ways its good they exist because they do give some people a taste of a relationship with God.
However the true faith as practiced by the apostles is what the Church (Catholic) does today.
Spouting a few theories that you have or heard on the Catholic Church just shows how dumb and mislead people really are.
I am fully informed about Evengelicals etc, I can argue twenty differing viewpoints using the bible alone.
I have since come back to the real church and guess what Jesus is there!!
2007-09-27 11:18:58
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answered by Anonymous
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Two things:
The "church" is a spiritual organism made up of those who have God's Spirit in them, regardless of what church corporate theey happen to attend or are members of.
There were churches established before the church at Rome was, so your claim lacks merit in this regard.
Secondly, you are claiming that the Word of God as recorded in Scripture is an insufficient guide in determining God's will for mankind? What a boast! What arrogance!
And to further show the falsehood of your belief; I am not a Protestant or a Catholic. I am one who read the gospel from Scripture and understood it and believed it and received the Spirit of God as a result. Your claim would have me believe that this would be impossible without being a Catholic! So your belief constitutes a false gospel, and there is no salvation in believing a false gospel. Nowhere does it say a person has to believe in, and be a member of, a particular organization.
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2007-09-26 03:20:26
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answered by Hogie 7
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I used to think this way when I was a Catholic. And even though I'd probably rejoin the Catholic church over any other options if I ever went back to Christianity, there's no question that the Catholic church *seriously* lost its way a few times over the centuries. Luther brought many desperately needed reforms. Some others after him just had axes to grind, but there's nothing wrong with someone coming along and shaking things up once in a while.
2007-09-26 01:16:17
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answered by Cap'n Zeemboo 3
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Protestants fail to realize that tradition is the way the Holy Spirit guides the church, from age to age, and that scripture is merely authentic church tradition, reduced to writing, under the inspiration of that same Holy Spirit.
Let them produce the written instructions from God ordering anyone to write a single verse of scripture, if they want to prove me wrong.
In the end, the bible is all tradition ... and it's all Catholic ... and the church has been described as such from at least 107 AD ... in the writings of St. Ignatius.
The protestants were the guys who showed up 1500 years late, set up their own strange faith traditions, and started a branch of Christianity unlike anything the world had ever seen ... or even imagined ... based solely on hijacking the bible for themselves, and on the whims of an errant priest, plus a handful of similarly confused men ... who possessed no authority whatsoever from God to do so.
Today there's 50,000 different versions of protestant Christianity ... with 50,000 different and widely varying creeds ... all claiming to be authentic works of the Holy Spirit.
Sounds more like heresy of the week.
Sola scriptura indeed!
2007-09-26 15:23:06
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answered by Anonymous
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Bottom line: Christ spoke Aramaic and nicknamed Simon "Kepha," ("Cephas") which means "Rock." Most of the New Testament was written in Greek (or translated into Greek, as is possible in the case of Matthew's Book), and Kepha was translated as "Petros" or "Petra" (depending on stylistic needs of the context), which both mean "Rock." In our English Bibles, "Petros" and "Petra" get translated into "Peter." 1 Peter IS "the Rock," the earthly head of Christ's Church as Christ Himself states in Matthew 16. This would be as if you and I, speaking English and discussing someone named Mary, were quoted by an Italian who wrote her name as "Maria," which a Frenchman translated as "Marie".
Many Protestants try to get around Matthew 16:15-19 by pointing to 1 Corinthians 10:3-5 "And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ." But this is something no Catholic would disagree with! Yes, the SPIRITUAL Rock, Christ, the High Priest and Head of the Church, authorized Peter to be the earthly Rock, His Vicar, of the Church -- the father of the New Covenant, just as God the Father made Abraham the earthly father of the Old Covenant (Isaiah 51:1-2) while remaining the ultimate, SPIRITUAL Father of that Covenant.
Some try to get around these verses in other imaginative ways, saying that Christ was talking only about Himself or only about Peter's faith.
When it is all said and done all arguments put forwrd by Protestants are self justifications in the face of revealed truth.
2007-09-26 01:17:29
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answered by Sentinel 7
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The catholic church is false, corrupted!. It violate and encourage people to disobey, he first and the most important commandment. And that commandments..is not bowing or worshiping anything from heaven above or the earth beneath, thou shalll not make any idols. The Lord tell us to love him with all our hearts and soul. Yet the catholic faith encourage idol worships and praying to saints not only praying to saints but they have prayer to St. Francis, St. Teresa etc..where in the bible does these saint exist? And if it is OK to bow to these saints, should it not be OK for the pagan and the Buddhist to worship there prophets and ancestor? The word tell us also that behind all idols are demons..and we are never able to share the cup of the Lord and the cups of demons. So this clarify..any church that has any idols, saints, virgin Mary, the spirit behind it is Satan and our lord will not dwell there...amen?
2007-09-29 18:42:16
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answered by Aoly Allizabeth 1
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Hey the Greek Orthodox Church existed A LONG TIME BEFORE THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH DID! They say they are Christ's "one true Church."
As soon as you guys argue that one out with each other and come to some sort of agreement, come talk to me. Until then, you've got some homework to do!
2007-09-26 02:28:47
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answered by Anonymous
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Show me where in the time of Jesus & the Apostles there was ever a catholic church, you won't find it, The catholic system did not even come into focus until about 250 yrs later, & not one doctrine the catholic system teaches, is anything the Apostles taught. Answer me this question, why don't the catholic system allow a priest to marry, They claim to be a follower of Peter, & Peter was a married man, & why do the catholics sprinkle people with water, Peter never done that, He completely immursed a person in water in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, & not in the TITLES of father, son, & holy ghost.
2007-09-26 01:19:05
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answer #9
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answered by Anonymous
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You guys are arguing about writings about a man 40 years after his death...seems kind of silly to me...I am pretty sure Jesus never died on the cross...Pontius Pilate did not keep records of Jesus' execution, and there are no known writings about the man named Jesus (or Yaheshua) that performed miracles during that time...You are all crazy raving mad lunatics...Get over it, join the 21st century.
2007-09-26 17:44:39
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answered by klover_dso 3
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