Can anyone provide a list of the Gen. Petreaus lies?

Question

Don't waste your time generalizing and name calling because, that's what it amounts to..... A waste of time! If you can't back it up, skip this question.

Thanks! I'm waiting to see 30 responses with back up!

Answer 1

I think I've built up creditials in this category, at least with the asker, to where she knows my answer will be fair.

# 1 - It is wrong to use a US Military officer active duty to try to sell a foreign policy

# 2 - It is wrong to attack a US Military officer active duty whose doing his or her job going before congress to give testimony

# 3 - The Iraq is a disaster (we were right to go in, should have done so earlier) but this President and his administration failed to follow the Powell Doctrine and thats why we are in this disaster

# 4 - Moveon dot or is a tool of the machine, the machine that wants to distract us for the real problem, the fact of the matter is, throughout history, there have been two sides,

The warrior class, and the merchant class,

some of the warrior class go and enter the merchant class, we see this with the ex military who take roles in corporate america, but indeed, the war profitering is still done by the elite of the merchant class
the warrior hates war
the merchant profits off war

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Did General Patreaus lie? Who cares. Thats not relevant.

What is relevant is that the merchant class in America, the lobbysts and corporate board directors and the republicans and democrats failed to follow the powell doctrine

we're there alone, our military, and our private band of security forces, the haliburton and now the hysteria over blackbird or whatever its called

we're not stupid

we see whats going on

the rich are getting richer because our government is borrowing money from china and japan to fund this thing in iraq,

we didn't go to other countries and get their troops and their money for this effort,

we failed to have a foreign policy and diplomacy to make this happen

i am sick of the liberals who say general betray us and impeach bush and illegal war and we should have never been there

im sick of conservatives who paint me as a granola eating hippie for criticizing this president

they have becomes tools of the merchant class

we are not dumb

we see whats going on

why do we have more private security there
why not french troops and british troops

where is nato
where is canada

the arguement is made that technologically these nations can not keep up with us
thats fair
we took down saddamn in 3 weeks

its that fourth week that we needed the other nations to secure the borders

this president is who had betrayed us

President Betray us

and moveon dot org is attacking a tool of the machine, and ignores the fact that we as a society should properly criticize the man accountable who we elected - bush

shame on move on dot org for attacking a general,

and shame on move on dot org for giving conservatives the ability to attack liberals for being anti military

and shame on move on dot org for not attacking bush for this disaster

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I served my country 4 years in the military
honorable discharge

and conservatives on this site have insulted me as not a real vetran for speaking out against this president

what does free speech mean to me?

The right to criticize this president
the right to criticize moveon dot org

and the right to go vote in 2004 for john kerry

and the right to say i dont like hillary or barack and while i like the mcccain and rudy and mitt, i do ask how will they be different from bush in iraq

how will mitt be different
how will rudy be different
how will mccain be different

i fear there will be more of this dissaster

who benefits?

the merchant class

the shareholders

you blogged on george soros

they are the same dog, they are the same secret society

they are either republican or democrat

i am not fooled

kerry would have been no better

what american will rise and save us from this?

I don't know that the machine will allow it

Answer 2

The point of the assessment of the progress in Iraq was to see if the war was in need of a new strategy. Five recent independent studies showed the "glass half empty". General Petraeus showed it "half full" which is exactly what was expected.

I think the bad response was due to Pres. Bush stating that the report would go through the White House rather than directly from the general. I'm sorry to say that the majority of people in the U.S. do not trust Pres. Bush to tell it like it is. Unfortunately, there is a history of people reporting to the President saying what they are told to say.

The only person I heard call out the general was Senator Webb who's son has been serving in Iraq in Anbar Province. He said that Anbar was pretty well cleared by the end of 2006 before the extra 4,000 troops got there. How would anybody here know if there were direct lies? We can only compare the reports that are available to us. General Petraeus is doing a good job and nobody can take that away from him.

Answer 3

All the level headed people know that even before he set foot in Iraq stuff was written about him and how he was going to lie about what is/was going on.

I pray (if we do have a god) that despite everything that has gone on since the war started in the 80's that some how America comes out of this for the better.

N. Vietnamese Gen Vo Nguyen Giap credits the American people for giving the North Vietnamese the will to hold out he said that he knew that they would never beat the Americans in battle but they knew if they could hold on, keep fighting enough, killing enough GIs that the American people would get fed up and pull the troops out.

The Democrats, most news and people who protest the war, people calling our troops baby killers and liers, rant outside our fallen as they are being put into the ground are giving hope to the people who wish to kill us.

I find it sick that over all more news coverage was given to News people hurt or missing or killed then to our missing POWs.

I have never felt so bad about serving in my life because of the cowards and liers that now make up America! I know for sure now that America has what is comming to it, go ahead and ignore the world around you, you will get what is comming to you for being cowards.

Thank you Gen Peteaus and all others in our services, your county don't like you anymore they shut down your bases (Cliton) don't update your gear (1980s H1 came out, M16 in the 60's) and bittch about how much you make, in 2000 it was .42 an hour at E2 pay grade.

You can bet your Asz that no bombs or airplanes will damage any of our news or news paper companys, they are helping win the war........not for us.

At any time we can be attacked by NBC warfare, these people do not have any value on our lifes, they will do worse then the Japs did, they can't be reasoned with, they cant be bought, they just kill.

We should deport our cowards, this my be law after we rebuild America after an attack that is comming.

Answer 4

No, of course, they can't. General Petreaus is just a dedicated Soldier doing the job that he was assigned to do.
Suppose a Democrat is elected President, and it is one of the current batch who ALL refused to vote for a statement condemning Moveon.org for their ad. And THEN, a real need to call on the military to defend the country, like a missile attack with nuclear weapons, what will be the result? Why wouldn't all the officers resign and the men go awol? The answer is that they are far more dedicated and love their country much more than any of the current batch of Democrat Presidential candidates!
edit. I was reading some of the other posts and noticed that no one bothered to point out that General Petreaus was called a LIAR before he gave his report. Even Hillary Clinton said she didn't believe him BEFORE he even gave his report. The reason for that was that a DEMOCRAT from SC had been to Iraq and was impressed with the progress. To which he admitted that was going to hurt them in next year's election! If you don't like the message, attack the messenger!

Answer 5

I would never call a decorated General in the Unites States military a liar or a traitor- that's waaaay out of line. But, I think I know what people were driving at. I read both his report, and the GAO version, and the discrepancies are minor. On five of the checkpoints, General Petraeus's report gives partial credit for progress toward benchmarks that weren't yet acheived, and the GAO version was more hard edged in that it called a failure a failure no matter how closely it was missed. Both are honest reports- it really did come down to a half empty/half full glass. Except that even half full, the report was about the dismal failure of the Bush Administrations policies in Iraq- 8 out of 18 still isn't good.

Answer 6

Spoke the Truth the General is a medal of Valor recipient and the U.S. Ground Forces commander in a time of war. The general gave his report, he lives this war everyday and is on scene in the field with the troops. To disrespect a man that has done more with his life severing his country than most is UN-American, if people disagree in healthy debate that's fine but name calling is childish. Also unless you have a top-secret clearance than I doubt you will read the full report, But again the Dem's chose the General, the General gave his report fresh from the field with eyes on the situation, I'll take his word for it than a Left wing nut group that has never been on scene in A combat zone or been in the military.

Answer 7

The US Government asked a very high ranking military leader his opinion of a war effort.

Soldiers are trained to see black and white. There is no gray area.

Gray area to a soldier is about as immaterial as politics when someone points a gun in your face or tosses a hand grenade at you.

As far as a General is concerned they are exposed to the political arena to a point, but the realm of their objectives aren't one to question a political ideology when turning loose military troops that follow their command.

Politics of war occur in office buildings among leaders and war takes place over the soil we stand on.

Diminishing the credibility of a man taught to fight in black and white without himself having to wade through any gray matter - save for political leaders (not his job); is beyond foolish.

It boils down to seriously disparaging propaganda dealt out by the (grasping at straws) liberals even before he actually gave ANY testimony.

Answer 8

I doubt if anyone but an expert could come up with a list of lies and there's very few of those around. So actually, there's no way to prove whether he was or he wasn't. I pretty much agree with the answer just above this one.

Answer 9

All you have to do is check out Moveon.org to get a whole bunch of lies about the Gen.

Answer 10

there weren't any
but the pyscho left probably succeeded in tarnishing his name
and if you went to the average dumba$$ they would say
"yea, dude petreaus lied man "