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Yet endorses Scooter Libbey's freedom of speech to be a criminal liar wih a pardon?

2007-09-24 17:01:55 · 17 answers · asked by Anonymous in Politics & Government Politics

Ok, I stand corrected, Libbey's sentence was commuted. He was convicted of obstruction of justice lying to FBI agents.

Moxt Americans don't have a problem with the concept othat a General is not beyond criticism.

2007-09-24 23:28:34 · update #1

dez604: Your commentt about Petraeus winning a medal of valor was interesting. I didn't see that mentioned in wikipedia.

2007-09-25 00:09:58 · update #2

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He'd like moveon.org if their free speech consisted of things like:
"Bush doing a wonderful job"
"War on Terror is a complete success"
"Blame the Democrats"

2007-09-24 17:09:24 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1 4

It wasn't a pardon; it was a commutation which still leaves a crime on LIbbey's record and can get him disbarred. I don't know what Bush said about the Move-on ad, but there is a difference between criticizing what someone says and criticizing them for using their freedom of speech.

There has long been a saying in The USA that both conservatives and liberals have agreed upon: " I disagree with what you say, but I will fight for your right to say it". For all of the name calling and conspiracy theories being spread by demonizers on both sides, most of us still practice that ideal.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nonlethalalternatives/

2007-09-24 17:10:29 · answer #2 · answered by Yaktivistdotcom 5 · 2 0

Hey "Liberal", first poster, George Soros is Jewish to, lame argument.

As for this question, Bush is using his freedom of speech to criticize the attack on Patraeus. His criticism is also freedom of speech and is entitled to speak it. As for Libby, how a man got sentence to perjury for not recalling which order he said something to someone else is beyond me. He deserved a pardon, but he only has his sentence commuted.

2007-09-24 17:11:13 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Liar? Well prove that Libbey was pardoned and come back with the truth

2007-09-24 17:11:09 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

Because the First Amendment also extends to Presidents, who are United States citizens, whether you agree with them or not. Since when does Bush not have the right to criticize moveon.org by the same authority that you have to criticize his opinions?

2007-09-24 17:12:26 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

Why does moveon.org slander an American General before he even delivers his report to congress? Because just because Bush is President doesn't mean he gave up his 1st amendment rights anymore than moveon.org did.

2007-09-24 17:32:56 · answer #6 · answered by smsmith500 7 · 0 0

Because moveon.org's statements were a personal attack made without proof or justification. Their ad copy was created and their minds made up before they even heard what he had to say.

As for Libbey ... ? Your comment makes no sense, just typical lib hype.

2007-09-24 17:08:41 · answer #7 · answered by ? 5 · 2 1

He is The general is the U.S. Ground forces COMMANDER in a TIME OF WAR!!!! Show him respect, Also the General was awarded the Medal of Valor!!! What has Moveon.org, and George Soros, ever been awarded for courage under fire and Leading Men!!!! Any person running for president that doesn't back the The general of U.S. Ground forces COMMANDER TIME OF WAR over a left wing nut group that smear those who don't bow down to there feet has no business being commander and Chief.

Also he's a list of Pardons That Clinton made, Don't forget his brother, Before you through stones make sure your house isn't made of glass either

Clinton issued 140 pardons as well as several commutations on his last day of office (January 20, 2001).[11] When a sentence is commuted, the conviction remains intact, but the sentence can be altered in a number of ways. Some controversial actions include the following:

Carlos A. Vignali had his sentence for cocaine trafficking commuted, after serving 6 of 15 years in federal prison.
Almon Glenn Braswell was pardoned of his mail fraud and perjury convictions, even while a federal investigation was underway regarding additional money laundering and tax evasion charges.[12] Braswell and Carlos Vignali each paid approximately $200,000 to Hillary Clinton's brother, Hugh Rodham, to represent their respective cases for clemency. Hugh Rodham returned the payments after they were disclosed to the public.[citation needed] Braswell would later invoke the Fifth Amendment at a Senate Committee hearing in 2001, when questioned about allegations of his having systematically defrauded senior citizens of millions of dollars.[13]
Marc Rich, a fugitive, was pardoned of tax evasion, after clemency pleas from Israeli prime minister Ehud Barak, among many other international luminaries. He was required to pay a $100 million dollar fine and waive any use of the pardon as a defense against any future civil charges that were filed against him in the same case. Critics complained that Denise Rich, his former wife, had made substantial donations to the Clinton library and to Mrs. Clinton's senate campaign. Emails uncovered during the course of the investigation revealed that her final donation was provided a year before Scooter Libby requested that she approach Clinton for a pardon. According to Paul Volcker's independent investigation of Iraqi Oil-for-Food kickback schemes, Marc Rich was a middleman for several suspect Iraqi oil deals involving over 4 million barrels of oil.[14]
Susan McDougal, who had already completed her sentence, was pardoned for her role in the Whitewater scandal; McDougal had served 18 months on contempt charges for refusing to testify about Clinton's role.
Dan Rostenkowski, a former Democratic Congressman convicted in the Congressional Post Office Scandal. Rostenkowski had served his entire sentence.
Melvin J. Reynolds, a Democratic Congressman from Illinois, who was convicted of bank fraud, 12 counts of sexual assault, obstruction of justice, and solicitation of child pornography had his sentence commuted on the bank fraud charged and was allowed to serve the final months under the auspices of a half way house. He had served his entire sentence on child sex abuse charges before the commutation of the later convictions.
Roger Clinton, the president's half-brother, on drug charges after having served the entire sentence more than a decade before. Roger Clinton would be charged with drunk driving and disorderly conduct in an unrelated incident within a year of the pardon.[15] He was also briefly alleged to have been utilized in lobbying for the Braswell pardon, among others. However, no wrongdoing was uncovered.

2007-09-24 17:09:49 · answer #8 · answered by dez604 5 · 2 0

If you think degrading the military is the best way to exercise your free speech, then go right ahead and say your moronic talking points. No one has to listen to you though. I do not see how Scooter Libby has anything to do with move.org and their disgraceful comments about our armed forces.

2007-09-24 17:50:00 · answer #9 · answered by - 6 · 0 1

Freedom of Speech isn't free when it defaces someone and make things up that hurt people on purpose . I wish it would shut down.it is a trashy link.

2007-09-24 18:10:57 · answer #10 · answered by ♥ Mel 7 · 0 1

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