for those who say Catholics are not Christian?

Question

can you explain to me where the Protestants where before the 15th/16th century ?
and where you would be today without the continuation of the Catholic church from the very begining ?

seriously guys , I dont mean to put anyone down ....
but what would have became of Christianity without the Catholic church ?

for those who are not Christian or who are Catholic ... what is your opinion on what would have happened had the church not split
( for the record for anyone who doesnt know , I am not Catholic/Christian )

so please tell me what " Christians " were called pre Constantine ?

safe and happy trip guys thank you xxx

Answer 1

I am not one of those who say this. My beloved grandmother was a Catholic Christian and she LOVED Jesus with all of her heart! In fact, she taught me who Jesus was! I found my Jesus to be loving and compassionate through her eyes. She fed hungry people because of her love for Jesus. She was every bit as Christian as my little Southern Baptist granny! They were both God fearing women who loved Jesus!

Answer 2

Actually, catholic does not have anything to do with christianity. The word catholic (katholikos from katholou: throughout the whole, i.e., universal) already occurs in the Greek classics, e.g., in Aristotle and Polybius.
The first time the word was used by the Christians is in a letter written by Ignatius to Christians in Smyrna around 110 meaning "the universal church". Thus, the Roman Catholic church is the universal church of Rome.
Away with the Romans, I'm a Celt of the tribe of the Belgae! :)

Answer 3

I think that people put far too much in the whole catholic/ christian thing. Until the time of Henry the eighth this was a predominantly catholic country.

I personally try to live my life by the ten commandments and if you think about so do most people thou shall not commit murder thou shall not steal etc etc.

In the grand scheme of it all is it really important what we're called I believe in God the father his son Jesus Christ and Mary the virgin Mother of God.

I don't think anyone has to believe this it is my personal choice, and with everything I've been through in my life I have never denounced God nor shall I ever, He is my saviour and My God that doesn't mean I condemn you to Hell because your not a Catholic.

I believe one day maybe the day you on the die or for some (st Bernadette at Lourdes) that will we'll all know the truth in my heart of hearts I already know, But, that is because of the strength of my belief. So does it really matter of course not just what you believe to be right am I a christian yes because Henry the eighth made it that way by separating the church he made catholics and church of England two denominations of the same faith with a few tweaks to suit himself.

Answer 4

In my Atheistic opinion...I've often wondered what would have become of Jesus had the church not got their hands on him at all. Lets say his story was written up by an Agnostic or Atheist, or a disinterested historian, for example. How would they have interpreted his parables? Would they have taken his teachings to heart, perhaps? Nah! Not even "those who claim to be " Catholics and Protestants can learn to love their neighbours, turn the other cheek or forgive... and they claim to be followers of Jesus!

The church and its followers appear to me too obsessed with the hear-after to give the here-and-now the importance it deserves. Jesus spent a lot more time giving his disciples guidance on how to live, as opposed to: how to die.

So, what would have become of Jesus without the Church? Would he have gone into the history books as a "wise man" a "charismatic teacher" a "very humane being"...?

Answer 5

There were earlier schisms before Protestantism, Gnostiscism, Montanism,Waldensians,Manichaeans,Arianism and the list goes on and on, so the Reformation is just another in a long line of these, there is one and one only church that traces it`s roots to the Apostles and this is the Catholic church.
Some of the more die-hard Protestants like to cite the church as having it`s beginnings with Constantine but this is of course another untruth, they really need the truth of the Holy Spirit within them and not the lying spirit of Luther,Calvin etc.

Answer 6

I'm a former catholic and have protestant friends. I think anyone who says to believe in Christ but then discriminates, murders or blame people of religions other than their own for the evils of the world is not a true Christian. Jesus preached love and acceptance; do otherwise and shouldn't consider yourself a Christian but a fanatic extremist, which is what many alleged Christians really are.

Answer 7

good points but the way I was told it is that the roman catholics started emphasising saints in rituals and it was BIG bussiness hence the split and the opinion that roman catholics arn't real christians but there have been several splits befor the orthodox and the coptic churches both split early on the anglicans at the same time as the protestant and eventually their will be other splits over something else, like gay marrage or something but the catholics are a devider group anyway with the jesuits and other denominations within it just like most christian churches. but if you can't love yourselves how can you expect to love your enemy.
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Answer 8

It's the ultimate in hypocrisy for any Christian to say the Catholics aren't Christian. CJ above is a perfect example of what I am talking about. He talks of the pagan beliefs that the Catholics adopted at the time of Constantine and yet he most likely attends church on Sundays which is one of those pagan beliefs that the Catholic church adopted. I find it simply incredible...

Answer 9

There is not just the Church of Rome but also the Orthodox Church and Coptics. Had the Church of Rome fallen God would have empowered the others. The split from Rome was caaaused mainly by the corruption in the Church of Rome.
If you are English it needs to be remembered that Martin Luther was kicked out of the Church of Rome for speaking the truth.
In spite of Henry V111 split from rome he in fact remain a "Catholic" until the end of his days. It is not only Protestants who need to read history ( I know I do before anyone starts)

Answer 10

Yay you're back, Hope it was fun

if the Church hadn't split, it may have taken longer for changes in the Catholic Church to take place because those that protested, hence Protestants, made many things that are acceptable today acceptable back then.

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Answer 11

she's baaaaaaack!

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ok, I was raised in a faintly anti-catholic home. but as an adult I have seen that the Catholic Church is among the first to arrive and the last to leave when a crisis hits---they do God's work. They have taken some hard hits lately, and the Pope is NOT infallable, but there are some wonderful good godly people in and around the Catholic Church, and the world should thank God for them. I sang Christmas Mass 4 times last year....loved it...
Churches split. That's what they do. run of the mill, nothing is more political than a church.